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Summary
A European Parliament member claimed that the U.S. gave Europe three weeks to agree on Ukraine’s “surrender” terms or risk an American withdrawal from Europe.
Mika Aaltola made the claim on X, but provided no evidence. NBC News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suggested a U.S. troop reduction in Europe.
Trump reportedly plans to cut 20,000 troops and demand greater NATO contributions. He has pushed for higher NATO defense spending.
Trump may meet with Putin soon, believing Russia holds the upper hand in negotiations.
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It’s the US that are surrendering, not Ukraine nor Europe. This is a defeat for the US, I don’t see other countries that could be qualified as being defeated. Russia not yet but we’re getting there. With or without the US.
Ukraine and US are the losers in this war. US have lost considerable influence and goodwill, and Ukraine has lost land and people.
We need regime change in the USA. The global community should work together for this endeavor.
Someone hit up the Saudis, they were pretty down last time
Most of the global community benefits from Trump’s government. They aren’t looking for a regime change. Western nations and US Eastern allies are the ones that are being betrayed.
The European NATO members should tell the AmeriKans they have 3 weeks to shutdown all their military bases until Jan 2029.
Once those close, keep them closed. Hell, use them for yourself for your own defense.
The USA has made it clear it cannot be relied on
Nah. Keep them closed forever. We dont need the traitor alliance
And keep them shut if fair elections are not allowed to be carried out by their reality tv star dictator.
Being an American that feels like they no longer have a home, I would like Europe to unleash holy hell upon the US. Do not let this fascicle president dictate what you do for your continent. You were fine before we took over swaths of your countries for their bases, you can be the strong leaders that the West need to fight everything that’s going on in your vicinity with Russia, North Korea, and any other rogue nation. I hate to say it, but the US is a part of that sentence as well. The US will not protect you anymore, I have absolutely no faith that the US will step up when you need them the most. Protect yourselves.
fascicle
Never seen this word before and in my head I just read “foshizzle”
Europe countries do not have the power to “unleash holy hell upon the US.”
This but economy 101. Why waste military hardware when the most precious thing the US has economically is their high tech sector. Let’s tank it for the Lulz.
The most triggering for Trump would be to ignore the gulf of America thingy… Keep calling the gulf of Mexico., the gulf of Mexico.
That you?
France’s thermonuclear arsenal says hello.
Not really what we want to do though, surely.
Trump is gambling with monopoly money.
He put all his money on red.
But Europe is playing poker.
And I give trump three weeks to vacate the white House and the presidency.
Or what?
Trump doesn’t have the authority to dictate the foreign policy of other countries making his statement just as empty and meaningless as mine.
Are you suggesting the US hasn’t been dictating the foreign policy of any country in history? That’s a wild statement.
What would be the purpose of US support in Europe if not defending against Russia?
The US presence in Europe exists to facilitate US power projection, if we are not stopping Russian advancement then there is no reason for host countries to allow US bases in their territory.
US failed to stop the Russian advancement in Ukraine. So the US is backtracking from the war, in hopes of salvaging it’s relationship with Russia, to prevent another Cold War with Russia + China.
Cleary its time for Europe to round up, cage up, and deport all Americans and put a wall around Europe. And America will be made to pay for it.
If its a good enough policy for mexican and central american countries’ citizens then its a good enough policy for American citizens. They have no right to flee their own collapsing country into Europe, bringing their failed philosophies and neglected personal health with them. Doubly so if they are poorly educated. Many of them are probably servants of Putin and his terrorism, thus terrorists themselves.
Lets try that one on for size. Doesnt feel very good does it, my fellow Americans.
I think most americans simply feel like they are losing stuff theyve had for a long time, never considering whether they should have had it to begin with.
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You’re assuming they didn’t help bring this about in the first place.
Only to protect the interests of capital though. If you’re a popular black guy talking about economic distribution then you’re cooked, but increasing the wealth from the middle-class to the rich and killing the opposition is what the CIA is for.
Call his bluff.
American soft power around the globe relies on having those bases on foreign soil.
Military bases and soldiers are the opposite of soft power
Eh, it’s at least hybrid. Classic hard power is the use of the military. That can include garrisoning but usually by force, not by permission.
If you think about it from position of China being the biggest threat, then only Asian bases and countries matter. That’s why we don’t hear much about Trump doing crazy things in that region.
While Europe is important, it should be able to fend for itself. Also Europe joining China is unlikely in short and mid term. So it make sense to spend less money on Europe and focus on Asia.
Also explains the Russia situation. Although culturally Russia is as European as Sweden and Germany, this war has pushed it closer to China than ever. If the conflict lasts longer, then their alignment would be immenent. Personally I’m surprised that they didn’t align more. China was being surprisingly passive about the whole thing.
If the conflict lasts longer, then their alignment would be immenent.
Indeed. I do think this is why the US is seeking to end the war quickly.
Personally I’m surprised that they didn’t align more. China was being surprisingly passive about the whole thing.
China’s policies is for long term military and economic growth without the use of foreign alliance. The PRC doesn’t like to take risks when they don’t have to, and a rapid military alliance with Russia will come with plenty of risks that the Chinese might want to avoid.
Isn’t china already heavily invested/investing in Hungary?
Yes China makes big distinction between US and Europe in its rhetoric. And they are working on pulling Europe from USA, but it’s early days and it will take time. Lots of time.
I think Trump will manage to push Europe into China’s arms well within the next 4 years at the rate he’s going. If Europe can get China to back Ukraine I think that’s all it would take at this time.
I don’t think so. They are culturally too different. Europe will continue to suck American cock for at least couple decades going forward. That’s not to say that economic ties won’t increase in the meantime.
China has announced today it supports the peace talks started by the US and Russia.
china backs whoever is likely on the winning side that benefits them, right now trump is useful to china. also helps if russia weakening as a power as well, china and russia are frenemies at best.
Yes they have nothing to gain from not doing that at the moment.
If any European country bows down to Donald, I’ll boycott it for the rest of my life
“If any man dies with a clean sword, I’ll rape his fucking corpse!” - Winston Churchill, 1940.
Hungary and Slovakia for sure. Italy is heading in that direction after Meloni cried about the anti-trump meeting held in Paris.
You can count on Hungary and maybe Slovakia to grovel…like good america/russia first Europeans.
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Art of the deal. Plan A is to give three weeks to sign off on the surrender. When they refuse, Plan B starts. Plan B is that there is no Plan B.
If I was a Russian agent, and had managed to become the US President, he’s doing EXACTLY what I would to to gut and destroy the US. The Fanta Menace doesn’t even seem to be trying to hide the fact he works for Putin. So how has he not been charges with treason? Signed, Confused Non-US person.
Because the republicans have spent years gutting oversight, and decades making the populace dumber. This is their final putsch to fully gut the government so they can have complete power. And they’ve mostly succeeded already. The people are beyond disengaged from four years of this four years ago, plus Covid, plus struggling to survive in late stage American capitalism. It’s the perfect storm for a fascist takeover. And they’re taking full advantage.
Brilliant use of putsch!
Fanta Menace 🤣
Fucking piece of shit.
Also known as “pig hitler”
Yeah, well we didn’t vote for him. He can keep his lunacy for his subjects.
Pretty sure they didn’t vote for him either.
I’m begging for Americans to do something against Trump. You can’t just let someone who’s so blatantly under Putin’s thumb destroy everything.
Agreed. But the window of opportunity to act is closing fast. I’d be shocked if musk doesn’t have a massive fleet of drones to patrol the streets.
Over 50% of the once that went voting voted for trump. If you didnt vote, that was your vote. The vote to not give a fuck but still life with the aftermath
Under 50%, he only got 49% of the vote.
We’re not even talking about massive voter suppression.
Does that include the ballot images that musk created on his behalf?
Yep
Do it! I dare you! Fuck of from europe! Take all your companies with you! Dont sell us weapons anymore!
Democracie is none negotiatable and we dont negotiate with terrorist acomplices!
