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I’m just one US citizen but I’d like to apologize to all Ukrainians on behalf of 50% or so of all people here. Our leadership is disgusting.
EU citizen and i’d like to say your apologies are empty and hollow to us. Do something. This isn’t a joke, this isn’t hyperbole or a leftist talking point, you’re under constitutional crisis. Do something.
No you orange turd. He just doesn’t respect you or your sycophants.
Trump was so backed into a corner he reflexively rambled about Hunter Biden’s laptop and Hillary Clinton. What a joke. Then doubling down on Vance’s inane rambling about not showing gratitude, channelling peak abusive parent energy.
All because Zelensky made very reasonable points about requiring guarantees.
Absolute amateurs.
This 100%
Too bad there is no republican in congress sophisticated enough to realize they tied their cart to a psychotic, inane, horse that is going to drive them over a cliff.
Yep. Trump is barely more intelligible than Alex Jones at this point. They’re both just as honest
and thiel has the puppy in the corner vance on a leash telling him to bark when trump does.
Zekenskyy did the best he could; he came in humility and he really didn’t have any cards at that table. He had no cards because he didn’t come to play, he came to capitulate to the whims of a tyrant to try and save the lives of his countrymen by signing a one-sided deal.
That video will go down in history as one of the greatest moments of infamy in this age - if there were any justice Trump and the puppet masters behind him should be tried for the spark that lit the third world war.
Trump: you have not shown gratitude for our help.
Zelenaky: I have thanked the US many times for the support given.
Trump: you haven’t shown ENOUGH gratitude. Just say thank you.
Zelenaky: I do thank the US
Trump: You didn’t say it while kissing the ring.
such a putin script hes using.
Did Trump inject the word ‘dictate’ in there so he could justify calling Zelenskyy a dictator?
asssuming too much smarts from trumpo.
President Zelensky visited the USA to sign the rare earth mineral mining deal. The US mining executives were salivating over a deal to extract minerals from Ukraine like they do from Africa. Poof, Just Dumb and Orange Nero followed their Kremlin script, added a US temper tantrum and blew the fuck out of the deal. Ukraine will sell mining rights to the EU members, with exception to shitbags from Hungary, Slovakia and perhaps Italy. The executives who supported the deal must be pissed off.
I’m not convinced Trump ever really wanted those minerals. He floated the idea knowing Zelensky would never say ‘yes’ to the deal as originally presented. But then, when Zelensky seemed prepared to make compromises, Trump had to find another excuse to get the US out of being involved and went with the pathetic, shameful, cowardly performance we just witnessed.
Those minerals would be extremely lucrative for electric car batteries and space exploitation. Yes, I spelled it correctly.
Good for zelensky for standing up for what he thinks is right.
Business? What about democracy and freedom? Why is this about fucking business? What a tool.
Congratulations, we’ve witnessed history as global American influence effectively ended. Mark this day.
Oh sure, there’ll be some leaders who’ll profess listening but no one is going to take America seriously from now on.
The wise sage is now a decrepit dotard.
Well, the US has gone from powerful dotard to decrepit dotard anyway.
Few takeaways:
- JD Vance is talking over a tired-looking trump who can’t follow the conversation (See, him trying to correct Zelenskyy on the date of Crimea’s annexation, claiming it was 2015, then responding to being corrected on the date that, “I wasn’t there”. Like he was there in 2015, LOL).
- This was a preplanned ambush that is the most cringe fucking thing I’ve seen in the last 5 years, from MTG’s fucking boyfriend (I wish I made this up, I really do), attacking Zelenskyy for not wearing a suite, to which he responds by saying “I’ll wear a costume after the war is over. Like yours, but maybe better”
- JD Vance is really really bad at acting. He theatrically exclaims how the Oval office is being dIsReSPecTed!!!111!!! but with like a 5 second delay and with limited enthusiasm. All it does it tells you that this was the plan all along.
- Marco Rubio had a Dr Birx/drink bleach kind of moment there.
Overall the only news here is trump is really really declining cognitively. I wonder how long it will take NYT to notice that…
“I’ll wear a costume after the war is over.”
What a savage takedown, holy shit.
Zelenskyy is a class act. America doesn’t deserve to even be sitting at the same table as this guy.
All they achieved with this ambush is to show the difference in quality between Zelenskyy and trump/vance. The contrast is stark. Those two guys would have shat themselves in a reverse situation.
Fun fact: the French word for “suit” is “costume.” I wonder if Zelenskyy was aware of his multilingual pun.
Suit in Ukrainian is listerally “костюм”, in Latin script “kostyum”. Which is pronounced close enough.
I am not sure if it was intended, but hilarious nevertheless.
I’m sure it’s intended. The man was a comedian, and he’s been criticised for not wearing a suit before. He’s had this line in the chamber for a while, now he’s showing the world how a professional deals with hecklers.
criticized for not wearing a suit
Sometimes I don’t understand people. I’d love to see more politicians in normal clothes. It’s kind of childish to expect a suit for no reason, isn’t it?
I don’t think it was an intentional pun.
We can assume he is aware of it a lot more than the rubes in that room with him.
It’s the same in Ukrainian (and Russian): костюм
Honestly, the question’s stupidity wrote the pun.
I lost my mind over that sick outfit burn. Goddamn.
Just to clarify, in Russian and Ukrainian “costume” means “suit”.
I did not know that! Well, today I learned something cool. Well, even if it wasn’t meant as a jab, it still projects a lot of strength on his part - he has once again proven that he’s dedicated to ending the war, not staying in power or cultivating wealth, or playing at political theater. Gotta respect that.
I understand. It totally did!
I wonder how long it will take NYT to notice that…
Once it’s in their oligarch-owner’s interest
I’m sure the NYT has noticed, but their attorneys probably advise against making medical claims about sitting presidents. Especially since the current one is particularly litigious.
Ohh, I thought Biden was sitting president last year when they were pounding it on and on and on…
The US should feel embarassed for this.
Some of us voted all blue and still respect the Constitution and its oath (except the 13th), and yes we do feel pretty damn embarrassed and not looking forward to the next few years trying to fend off the fascists
Those of us who didn’t vote for him, actual Americans, do.
No true scotsman.
Yup. MAGAs are just as American as any other American. If they really want to deal with this, just whinging like elected Democrats isn’t gonna help. They’ve got to actually organize in meatspace.
If they were American, they would be following American values and laws.
also, if we ever got so lucky to get rid of this this mess, it won’t the MAGAs who will do the cleanup.
One can only feel so embarrassed.
Trump is such a disgusting thing
That was one of the most disgusting and rage-inducing videos I’ve ever seen. I would not have been able to restrain myself from punching Trump in the fucking nose if he had talked to me like that. I’m not a tough guy or violent in any way, and the Secret Service would have killed me, but the way he yells such insulting things at a world leader who is trying to save millions of lives… holy crap. And then Vance jumps in and claims he never said Thank You. I would’ve kicked him in the nuts and said, “thank you, now I feel better.”
This was a setup from the get go. They had no intention of signing any deal. This was all to get him in front of cameras with them so they could piss on his face and act like tough guys.
I particularly love the part where he says Obama sent them sheets and Trump sent them Javelins* then pauses to look at the camera and tell the media that that’s their headline. He may be losing his marbles, but that attention whore instinct goes straight to the core
* *Not sure if that’s the military aid he tried to block in order to coerce them into investigating the son of a political rival, or if he’s just taking credit for the aid sent under Biden that he actively opposed. Either way, it’s fucking rich for him to take credit for military aid when he is personally responsible for delaying and reducing the aid Ukraine got.
Trump won’t be mean to Putin because he wants to “make a deal” but he seems to be fine insulting the fuck out of Zelensky.
Someone needs to end the reign of Trump. What a waste of energy, piece of shit. Burn in hell.
Someone close to him needs to do something, for the good of the entire world.
That’s just vague enough to keep the SS off your back. Good job. Pun intended on SS
Yea, gotta be careful not to Say anything illegal
Honestly, if a USSS agent put a round through that orange paint I’d vote to drop any charges and consider it removing a domestic threat/using the 25th the relieve a leader permanently. Doesn’t solve the rot the conservatives have already spread but if this republic is gonna fall like Rome then let’s at least stop the loudest one
Plenty of old people with nothing left to lose have access to him. I’m just saying, it’d be a real shame…
