What’s the context?

Humane’s Ai Pin and other AI wearables are difficult to recycle, threatening to worsen the world’s global e-waste problem.

  • Dekkia
    link
    fedilink
    English
    4114 hours ago

    It feels a bit like the author used AI as a buzzword to get people to click on an article about electronics recycling.

    e-waste is a big issue affecting everyone and AI has lots of known issues. Mashing both of those things together doesn’t fix anything.

  • Quicky
    link
    fedilink
    English
    82
    edit-2
    16 hours ago

    This article is a bit of a mess. What the fuck does AI have to do with the amount of glue used in a device?

    And why focus on a limited run from a failed product rather than the literal millions of successful wearable products like airpods that are equally hard to recycle?

    Also

    Meanwhile, the use of the technology is only expected to grow.

    Very insightful

    • Quicky
      link
      fedilink
      English
      35
      edit-2
      16 hours ago

      Oh and not to question the professor’s expertise but you can’t blame the consumers for this one. Literally NOBODY asked for one of these pins.

      “These products are designed based on the consumers’ desires and affordability,” said Berrin Tansel, professor of civil and environmental engineering at Florida International University.

      Making them easier to recycle would require the cost of the material recovery process to be fronted by the manufacturer, making them more expensive, Tansel told Context.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          812 hours ago

          There’s an e-waste recycling fee tacked onto some electronics (TVs mostly I think) in Canada. Maybe it needs to be expanded to other things?

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            8
            edit-2
            12 hours ago

            It should be expanded to everything. Why do we allow corporations to build things that can’t be recycled, and not have them pay for the waste management of the products they create? Taxing them for hard to recycle packaging and products would spur them to create more sustainable alternatives. Why do we let consumers buy shit but distribute the cost of their waste management across all tax payers? Consumers should be charged extra for buying products which are hard to dispose of.

            NOTE: you just charge the companies for the waste management of their products, which will be passed onto consumers.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            11
            edit-2
            13 hours ago

            If only we had a way to collect money from companies as they operate. Damn.

            Edit: I know you said in this case, but taxing companies for this makes sense and needs to be said

    • Mîm
      link
      fedilink
      English
      614 hours ago

      And why focus on a limited run from a failed product rather than the literal millions of successful wearable products like airpods that are equally hard to recycle?

      Because there are a lot of people with an hateboner for everything with ‘AI’ mentioned with it and it brings clicks.

  • Snot Flickerman
    link
    fedilink
    English
    53
    edit-2
    8 hours ago

    I mean, this sucks, but Apple’s Airpods are far more egregious, far more numerous (something like 550 million+ versus 10,000+ AI pins), and have spawned an army of copycats all which cannot be repaired and are just ewaste waiting to happen.

    It’s really that the entire fucking industry just doesn’t god damned care and I can’t even find places that reliably take electronic waste like desktops and laptops, let alone this fucking horseshit. USA produces massive amounts of ewaste and basically is like “fuck it” on creating a recycling industry around it.

    This problems goes so far beyond these dinky AI pins.

    Futurama was making jokes about the horrors of ewaste in its first return run in 2013, it’s 2025 and it’s only gotten worse.

    • palordrolap
      link
      fedilink
      412 hours ago

      Grammar nitpick: “Whom” should only be used for people, possibly animals, and maybe other things in an anthropomorphic context like companies, robots*, etc. Extreme pedants would forbid its use for anything other than actual people.

      In this instance, “all of which” would be a better substitute for “all whom” in this instance. In fact, that ought to have been “all of whom” whether “whom” was correct or not.

      If you’d said “who” instead of “whom” it might not have awakened my inner pedant, but if you’re going to use “whom”, someone is bound to tell you the proper usage if you make a mistake.

      * recyclable or otherwise

      • Snot Flickerman
        link
        fedilink
        English
        2
        edit-2
        8 hours ago

        Okay I am gonna get very real with you for a minute:

        Ever since I got cancer I feel like I am going crazy/getting dementia because I constantly replace words I mean to use with similar but not quite the same words. Sometimes I literally know a word but when I am actually speaking out loud cannot force that word out of my mouth, I am just stuck, blank, unable to speak suddenly.

        Your inner pedant doesn’t know what’s going on in other people’s lives so maybe take a minute and think “maybe I don’t need to remind this person they are going crazy” and spend three paragraphs chiding them for something they cannot fucking control and depresses them deeply. Just step back a moment and realize your personal experience of being able to speak clearly is not everyone’s personal experience and that maybe being outwardly pushy about it isn’t helpful to them at all.

        You don’t know what is going on in other people’s lives or why they speak the way they do. They could be a non-native speaker, or they could be having serious issues with their brain, like me.

        So seriously take your pedantry and shove it up your ass. You still could understand what I meant. You didn’t have to shove my problems in my face like a dick. I changed it, for what it’s worth, because you’re correct, but I often make those changes hours later after I’ve noticed them, you just happened to catch one I made before I went to sleep. I don’t need dicks being pedantic dicks about it.

        • palordrolap
          link
          fedilink
          13 hours ago

          I’m sorry you’re having a bad time. I can’t fix it, but know that I wish that no-one had to go through anything like what you’re going through.

          Usually people who speak English as a second language are, somewhat surprisingly, fairly happy to receive correction. I see now that you’re probably not ESL.

          Since I’ve no idea whether someone is happy to receive correction or not, either I do so and hope for a good outcome - and maybe educate others along the way - or never correct anyone ever in case someone tells me to, well, you know.

          FWIW, I do know what its like to not be able to communicate properly with that horrible tip-of-the-tongue sensation, and I also know what it feels like to lose one’s mind as well as lash out in frustration. Been there, done that, with bells on.

          Not cancer in my case, but I’ve at least one close family member who had surgery and was on chemo drugs, so I can somewhat relate to that as well.

          And since I didn’t quite say it initially: I’m genuinely sorry I upset you and made you feel attacked. It was not my intent.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        212 hours ago

        Yes, whom was incorrect regardless. Who goes with he, whom goes with him. Who cannot be repaired? He cannot be repaired.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      614 hours ago

      I think the company behind Fairphone makes wireless earbuds as well with replaceable batteries. They are priced in the mid range segment but sadly not available worldwide.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        413 hours ago

        It’s irrelevant, people are going to replace them every other year regardless to get the latest and greatest

    • PutItOutWithYourBootsTed
      link
      fedilink
      English
      716 hours ago

      Yup. And the way AirPods’ battery life is, not only are they irreparable, they’re also kaput after only like 2 years.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        815 hours ago

        At least they can be used for 2 years. What about single use vapes? Those things have a lithium battery but people throw them everywhere, instead of recycling them.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        816 hours ago

        While airpods are dogwater in terms of recycling, I have a 2nd hand pair or them and 2 years later they still work like in the beggining.

  • @RamblingPanda
    link
    English
    1917 hours ago

    That can’t be too much of an issue. How many people bought that shit? Five?

      • @RamblingPanda
        link
        English
        617 hours ago

        If they were realistic, about 10. But I guess they were not, and to make 10 wouldn’t have been very economic.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      416 hours ago

      Came here to say this, the total number produced could probably easily fit in a U-Haul moving box.