My favorite male fantasy that games allow me to realize is that of becoming a successful man despite not executing any meaningful work.
Ah, CEO sim, my fave.
No, no. Landlord simulator.
Civilization series AKA dictator simulator!
hey sometimes landlords have to get up and collect their checks and then go cash it. takes a lot out of you especially when they dont tip
Hey now, I said no meaningful work, not evil bullshit
I played a similar game on Roblox: Dig to find dad.
The objective is to bomb your way some 3 kilometers downwards. When you reach the bottom you’ll find a grocery store where the dad is shopping for milk. Talking to him reveals that he doesn’t want to go home. I don’t know if other endings are possible.
I don’t know how to feel about this.
Is there an adult around? I mean, I’m an adult but like an ADULT adult.
I just want to play games where i am not a toxic shit head and still get to do violence
I wonder if you can fill it with beans.
Only after you line it with jeans.:-)
O’Brian. 34,000 to teleport. Engage!
If the transporter mixed the jeans and the beans together, what would their name be? Bean? Jean? Bjean? Jbean?
Jeabs. That’s what the kids are calling them. No cap.
Whatever it would be, Janeway would tuvix that abomination.
I believe it would become Michael Jackson song Billie Jean
…yes😁
Sorry, not allowed. The beans are only allowed if deposited via a Taylor Swift jet.
Hrm, unless O’Brien’s transporter runs Arch Linux btw? 😜
You sold me with being on taylor swifts jet
That’s a little odd. I think most people would rather be in the inside.
I crave excitement
Bean hole.
And bacon and an epic narwhal. Especially at midnight XD
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Yes, games about my instinctual longing for the mines. ⛏️
I know this is a meme but I’m really really hoping that top line is from a skit or something
Nope. It was a BuzzFeed thing about a very very feminist person talking about how gaming only appeals to men. I am feminist, and the piece still got a massive eyeroll from me. They cherry picked a few things and said because of those things gaming was only catering to men.
Worse is that they didn’t tackle any actual issues going on in gaming. Just lame ragebait.
IIRC one of the examples was an NPC in GTA 5 making a sexist comment. In GTA 5, which is of course a parody of modern culture, completely out of context.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/video-games-appeal-to-the-male-fantasy
Ugh so typical buzzfeed clickbait slop then. Thank you for explaining. /gen
Guess I’ll go back to putting up with all the male fantasy in the cat adventure game I’m playing 😂
I mean, first of all, how dare you.
Yet, oddly enough, their legitimate journalism arm (Buzzfeed News) was actually pretty great.
Hey, how dare you mention a cat adventure game without naming it? Think about us others who want to fulfill our male fantasies that way!
Cattails: Wildwood Story. I’m on my second playthrough of it actually!
Cat Quest?
Cattails: Wildwood Story but I have also played Cat Quest 2 and it was very good!
It isn’t.
Just straight up accurate commentary lol
ah yes the male fantasy of riding horses.
Well, some men fantasize about riding horses. And some are more in the Mr. Hands camp.
You got something bad to say about NC’s coolest fixer, gonk?
“This is why I hate RomComs, it appeals to the female fantasy.”
(We can both say ridiculous things and be judgemental, or we can just let people like what they like. Not everything has to be “for you,” nor “for everyone.”)
This game is actually great. I played through fully twice, it’s rather short. Highly recommend if you like digging a hole and upgrading your hole digging ability.
I loved it but needed it to be longer. I want to dig more hole.
The mark of a good game.
What does it say about me that I’m actually interested in buying and playing this game?
It says that you want to experience life but wont/can’t sacrifice the physical investment that it involves.
Idk 🤷♂️. I’m not a doctor.
You need a bigger yard. Or a better shovel.
Girls can like digging holes too. Sounds to me like someone is looking for something to hate, and really reaching here, unless there’s something more subtle to this game (I doubt it).
Girls can be great hole diggers, yes.
Hey, I ain’t saying she’s a hole digger
In the original she was talking about GTA and in this meme, the creator is joking
Wait. The meme is a joke… and shouldn’t be taken seriously? Hmmm
Girls can like being a criminal too.
I support women’s wrongs.
Right but that’s not relevant to my point that this person is criticizing someone who doesn’t exist
Two questions. What is the surse of the top line? What is the source of the bottom line?
“A Game about digging a Hole” its well a game about digging a Hole in your backyard in the search for treasure.
Relatable to kids everywhere trying to dig a hole to the other side of the world.
Do kids these days still do that? Pls someone research this
I grabbed a couple, but they won’t answer. They just keep screaming.
Give me a little more time.
Edit: long story short, does anyone know a good lawyer?
It’s been 2 hours, I am awaiting your update
Edited
You should try Legal Eagle. I hear he’s great with legal woes stemming from digging holes that have nothing to do with the bodies that might be inside
But Devin did quit…
Duno about to the other side of the world, but seems really deep ones being dug happens often enough at some beaches it can be a hazard:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1919968/coastguard-ban-hole-digging-cornwall-beach-padstow
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/19/1100068725/beach-holes-sand-collapse-deaths
I thought it was okay. It’s pretty cheap at $5, but is probably only a few hours long.
That being said, digging a hole is a little thereaputic.
Isn’t it bit racist to think only male dwarfs like to dig holes.
Can confirm. Am dwarf, I don’t like holes. I like elves, fellowships and killing orcs. And my ax!
From what I’ve seen, men absolutely love digging holes. Every summer on the beach it’s the same: there’s always men digging holes. They bring their kids to the beach just to have an excuse for digging a hole, a waterfort, some dams, … For the kids ;)
So men like holes, kinda expected though?
Seems like the kind of game Dankpods would play.
Finally, a game about life decisions
Rock and stone!
What was the original game actually shown to her that led to that video clip? Who chose the game, etc?
Meming this is totally justified though. You could easily say that about any and all entertainment media formats without even looking very hard for examples. Its just without knowing the original context I can’t help but feel the woman got the short end of the stick with whatever show that was from.
GTAV, a scene at the Vanilla Unicorn strip club specifically
It’s… A really fucking stupid thing to bitch about specifically in that game, honestly. Of course a strip club objectifies women, and of course a game about criminality and the seedy underworld will have one
John Wick is a movie about criminality and the seedy underworld, and there’s no scene where John Wick gets a lap dance. There are women who appear to be sex workers, and John Wick murders their bosses. The audience isn’t invited to participate in the objectification, the audience is invited to hate the antagonist for objectifying women and wish for justice.
There’s nothing wrong with a game about robbing banks, because most people don’t rob banks, and a video game isn’t going to give them ideas. But a video game where you pretend to be a misogynist can teach dangerous habits, because that behaviour is easy to bring out of the game.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the people sending death threats to Anita Sarkeesian for saying games should objectify women less, are the people who went on to storm the capital to try and install a fascist dictator.
You’re smart enough to understand that games depicting banks robbery won’t lead to an increase in real life bank robbery, but somehow you’re convinced a game with a strip club can teach dangerous habits? I usually run all red lights when I play GTA, how do you think that has affected my real life driving? I played an evil karma playthrough in fallout3, am i a psychotic person in real life? Do you have a complete list of behaviors people have a hard time separating from video games?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25681166
Given that video games typically feature even less diverse and more objectified representations of women than traditional mainstream media, we predicted that there would be relationships between video game consumption and negative beliefs and attitudes about women. In this study, we conducted a survey (N = 351) of male and female adults and used structural equation modeling to analyze relationships among video game consumption, trait interpersonal aggression, ambivalent sexism, and first-order (percentage of false rape accusations) and second-order cultivation effects (RMA). We found support for the hypothesized cultivation model, indicating a relationship between video game consumption and RMA via interpersonal aggression and hostile sexism. Although these findings cannot be interpreted causally, we discuss the implications of these associations and future directions for research.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28408891
Research has indicated that many video games are saturated with stereotypes of women and that these contents may cultivate sexism. The purpose of this study was to assess the relationship between video game exposure and sexism for the first time in a large and representative sample. Our aim was also to measure the strength of this association when two other significant and well-studied sources of sexism, television exposure and religiosity, were also included in a multivariate model. A representative sample of 13520 French youth aged 11-19 years completed a survey measuring weekly video game and television exposure, religiosity, and sexist attitudes toward women. Controlling for gender and socioeconomic level, results showed that video game exposure and religiosity were both related to sexism. Implications of these results for future research on sexism in video games are discussed.
We have a correlation
Correlation is not causation.
Or did you fail your very first science class?
You’re right, it could be the other way around. Maybe sexist video games don’t cause sexism. Maybe they attract sexist men instead. Like the woman in the meme is saying.
You gamergate people are so easy to bait into disagreeing with yourselves
You’re right.
I’ll just go back to living the male fantasy of petting my dog on my 3ds.
Ah, surveys, which classify as observational, cross-sectional studies: pretty low on the hierarchy of evidence, yes?
Now show us studies that apply the same methods on the relationship with belief & attitudes toward bank robberies, risky driving, or dark personality traits as mentioned before. Applying the same methods on those questions would inform us whether such studies put them all on “the same level” as sexism or “objectification of women” (which someone before claimed would be funny), and whether we can put much stock in conclusions drawn from these methods.
It’s also questionable whether answers to survey questions imply much beyond state of mind that has real-life consequences. Unless there’s clear evidence of that, it’s a slippery slope.
It’s funny how this argument puts sexism and the objectification of women, unfortunately very common and normalized types of behavior, on the same level with behavior that’s psychotic and fucking lunatic.
So depicting violence is fine because people don’t do those violent things. Except people will do violent things (like Jan 6) but when that happens it’s because they they saw a lap dance being depicted?
Grand Theft Auto doesn’t have a level where you storm the capital and seize the government.
No, but it will make you do a columbine if you play while you listen to satanic music like Metallica and KMFDM, right Tipper?
No, you boomer.
Try again Mrs. Gore.
Strawman? False equivalence? This is a pretty bad argument.
First, I know this is the internet so everyone jumps to extremes. But can we please try to keep some level of nuance on the fediverse? And avoid personal attacks maybe??
I am an avid gamer, and have always wanted to believe violent video games don’t affect players. But the vast majority of studies indicate either some level of being desensitized or increase in aggression.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6790614/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15013257/
https://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/10.1027/1864-9335/a000154
So depicting violence isn’t great, especially (or maybe primarily) for kids.
Seeing a lap dance isn’t bad at all. But objectifying women and unequal representation is not great. Sex, OK. Sexism, not OK. Hopefully we can agree on that at least?
Hang on, so sex work is work and we shouldn’t shame sex workers, but those who pay the sex workers for their services are gross misogynists? Gotta pick one.
Yes we should pay the fictional video game ladies who don’t exist for their sex work. I heard Rockstar programmed them into GTA V without paying them a dime! We should go on strike until they pay their NPCs a fair wage.
Well you could kill them and steal it back afterwards I suppose but you do have to pay the fictional game ladies fictional game money, yes. They need it for their fictional kids and to buy fictional food in the fictional grocery store, duh. What, you think they take USD?
But sex work is real work. Rockstar should pay them real money.
They did pay the voice actors real money, and the fictional women use fictional currency. They are being paid both fictionally and IRL. Sucks to suck my guy, get good.
Btw I like that the root of your sarcasm is “No, stripping isn’t real work, real ones shouldn’t get paid because the fake ones only get fake currency.” You’re a weird dude.
No, I pick both.
No you pick your nose. It’s true I saw you eat it afterwards.
That’s missing a key past of the argument, objectification. Do the game devs add women exclusively as eye candy or as interesting, complex characters? I haven’t played GTA5 so I legit don’t know.
Maybe her comment here was silly and misplaced, but I think the gaming community really has (had?) excessive misogyny. And it does tend to cater to men more than women. Look at any recent major AAA games, the top 50 best selling video games, top rated games of all time, etc. The overwhelming majority ether have a male protagonist or customizable character. Only a handful specifically have a female protagonist.
Most gamers aren’t gross misogynists, but there are plenty of ways game devs could better represent women as equals.
and there’s no scene where John Wick gets a lap dance. There are women who appear to be sex workers, and John Wick murders their bosses. The audience isn’t invited to participate in the objectification,
I do not agree that paying a woman for a lap dance is objectification if sex work is real work and should be respected. If sex work is bad and shouldn’t be respected then sure, that’d be a bad thing to pay for, but it can’t be both.
Wrong person, that was someone else that said that
Right, then I responded to them, then you responded to me responding to them, and now we’re here. You said it’s missing part of the argument but it is the argument you jumped into, so “nuh uh” is what I’m saying.
She’s watching a clip of GTA5 that takes place in a strip club.
This was a BuzzFeed video, Claudia Restrepo was a writer for Oscar Hates Sexism, and the video was something like “feminists play grand theft Auto”
The scenes were specifically chosen to illicit a reaction. I can’t find the original video but from what I recall, were some of the worst in the game.
