So you only need it under certain conditions. It’s not a requirement to vote. So most people don’t need it, because the vast majority of people don’t visit military bases, secure federal facilities, or travel via aircraft.
Voting is a fundamental right. You really want to make it so only people wealthy enough to fly places get to vote?
You keep saying obstacles to voting like they are no big deal because they are no big deal to you. Voting is a fundamental right, and shouldn’t be limited to people that share your privilege. Not everyone drives, not everyone has $30, not everyone wants to suffer the indignity of jumping through hoops to prove they are too poor to pay for an ID card, not everyone can take the time to go spend the day at the DMV getting an ID card, and NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Voting is a privilege that most people don’t use. Yes Republicans are looking for ways to suppress votes, and I don’t think you should need an ID to vote, but the idea that getting an ID is hard, is preposterous. You need an ID for like fucking everything.
Like I say, motor voter states already have the requirment, just make all states motor voter, flip to 100% vote by mail, and tell the Republicans “mission accomplished” and watch them lose their goddamned minds.
I can’t tell if you’re being deliberately obtuse or you really just can’t see beyond your own lived experience. Either way, your worldview is problematic, and you’re standing on the side of fascists.
You don’t need an ID for a job. You just need a social security number. Same for social services. And if you want to bail on society and live in the woods, you still have the right to vote. Thinking it’s OK to make it harder to vote just because you don’t respect the people who will have a harder time is about as anti-american as it gets.
In order to have a life that looks like mine you need ID. I don’t see how people without ID do it. I don’t they’re being deliberately obtuse. Life is hard enough and most of us have a hard time understanding how different other people’s lives can be.
Right, but that’s exactly my point. It’s important to understand that everyone has a right to vote, and not just the people who have a life that looks like yours. And if you’re willing to take rights away from people who aren’t like you, then you’re the oppressor.
So you only need it under certain conditions. It’s not a requirement to vote. So most people don’t need it, because the vast majority of people don’t visit military bases, secure federal facilities, or travel via aircraft.
Voting is a fundamental right. You really want to make it so only people wealthy enough to fly places get to vote?
In California:
It costs thirty dollars.
Who wants to vote, but doesn’t have thirty dollars? That’s like three bananas.
And there are lower prices if you have low income.
And homeless people get them for free.
And ages 62+ get them for free.
You keep saying obstacles to voting like they are no big deal because they are no big deal to you. Voting is a fundamental right, and shouldn’t be limited to people that share your privilege. Not everyone drives, not everyone has $30, not everyone wants to suffer the indignity of jumping through hoops to prove they are too poor to pay for an ID card, not everyone can take the time to go spend the day at the DMV getting an ID card, and NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Voting is a privilege that most people don’t use. Yes Republicans are looking for ways to suppress votes, and I don’t think you should need an ID to vote, but the idea that getting an ID is hard, is preposterous. You need an ID for like fucking everything.
No you fucking fascist it’s a right, not a privilege
Felons can’t vote, seems like a privilege to me.
They can in many places and should everywhere
Like I say, motor voter states already have the requirment, just make all states motor voter, flip to 100% vote by mail, and tell the Republicans “mission accomplished” and watch them lose their goddamned minds.
“Motor voter”? Like, drive-through balloting?
Automatic voter registration when getting or renewing a drivers license or ID card.
Not everybody who has the right to vote needs a driver’s license or an ID card.
Everyone who wants a job, house, bank account, doctor, etc. etc. needs at least an ID card.
It’s not possible to function in modern society without identification.
I can’t tell if you’re being deliberately obtuse or you really just can’t see beyond your own lived experience. Either way, your worldview is problematic, and you’re standing on the side of fascists.
It’s super simple:
If you want a job, you have to have ID.
If you want social services, you also have to have ID.
If you bail and are living in the woods like a wildman, good for you, but you aren’t voting, and the number of people doing that is not significant.
You don’t need an ID for a job. You just need a social security number. Same for social services. And if you want to bail on society and live in the woods, you still have the right to vote. Thinking it’s OK to make it harder to vote just because you don’t respect the people who will have a harder time is about as anti-american as it gets.
In order to have a life that looks like mine you need ID. I don’t see how people without ID do it. I don’t they’re being deliberately obtuse. Life is hard enough and most of us have a hard time understanding how different other people’s lives can be.
Right, but that’s exactly my point. It’s important to understand that everyone has a right to vote, and not just the people who have a life that looks like yours. And if you’re willing to take rights away from people who aren’t like you, then you’re the oppressor.