• And009English
      32·
      1 个月前

      Ah… It’s fair? If wealth isn’t distributed well, blaming radical ideas will only fuel the fire. Solution is a much deeper one no one wants to invest into.

      • Franklin@lemmy.ca
        28·
        1 个月前

        I can call it a really stupid take while also acknowledging we need deep systemic change.

        • And009English
          7·
          1 个月前

          I meant it’s fair from a common man perspective where the laws might protect you from corporate greed

          • danc4498@lemmy.worldEnglish
            14·
            1 个月前

            Burn the world down and build it back fresh and new. It’s a great strategy when you don’t ask who is building it back and what are their goals? Nobody should ever trust Trump or any other billionaire to be that person.

            • And009English
              3·
              1 个月前

              Yes, the right idea with worst case motive

    • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
      10·
      1 个月前

      Except we still live in ‘free’ market vibes based capitalism - where the profits are privatized, and the losses get socialized. If this tariff stupidity goes on, there will be some kind of bailout/grift like there always is. From PPP loans, sweetheart tax breaks, to liquidity bailouts for banks, the Fed will step in and Congress will have to do something to restore market and consumer confidence. Or else we all facetank turbo inflation, job losses, and stagnant wages in a new economic depression.

      If these NEETs were old enough to have been alive during the 2008 crash, they spent it playing Modern Warfare 2 and wondering why everyone else had big sad - after all, they still had vidya, porn, and tendies living at home.

    • CronyAkatsuki@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz
      43·
      1 个月前

      That’s where the goverment suppoorted neet’s come into the picture.

      I know some neet’s who get more money from goverment than some people working 60 hour jobs.

        • theangryseal@lemmy.world
          26·
          1 个月前

          I am from a very poor place in WV where most people are on assistance because there are no jobs.

          Trump flags everywhere. Cars driving down the road with no tags or insurance, but Trump stickers all over.

          I don’t get it. Well, actually I do.

          Religion. The preacher says the gay is bad. Preacher says the trans is bad. Democrats want to extend basic rights to those people and preacher says god don’t like that.

          • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
            5·
            1 个月前

            There’s also the idea that they’ve earned their government money. I once dealt with someone like that. Her ptsd disability money was earned unlike everyone else who didn’t suffer for it in her eyes. Higher taxes meant her victims (she was emotionally abusive af) couldn’t spend as much on her and higher government spending meant that the government couldn’t spend as much on her.

            These people don’t think that their money will go away.

  • uienia@lemmy.world
    85·
    1 个月前

    They seem oddly confident in the police state and cultural sharia they voted for will never come for them.

    • kaaskop@feddit.nl
      43·
      1 个月前

      Or they don’t care. Don’t underestimate how self destructive depression can be.

      • uienia@lemmy.world
        25·
        1 个月前

        Don’t blame this on depression. Most depressed people doesn’t become fascists. If anything this is their narcissism showing itself.

        • kaaskop@feddit.nl
          13·
          1 个月前

          I dont think al of the people that voted for the annoying orange agree with the fascistic tendencies. It’s probably an unhealthy mix of suicidals and depressed people, angry people, fascists, idiots and morons. Neither of these are mutually exclusive of course.

        • Baguette@lemm.ee
          18·
          1 个月前

          I mean debtor prisons are basically just involuntary prison labor, which the US already has. Not really a leap, considering you can get arrested for legitimately anything.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            1·
            1 个月前

            Here’s how you go to jail for debt:

            Rack up a ton of credit card debt.

            Don’t pay it off, goes to collections.

            If it’s high enough, and you don’t move to another state…

            Collections sues you, you get a court summons in the mail.

            You throw away the court summons along with all your overdue bill notices.

            Congratulations, you now have an active arrest warrant, police will be at your location in… a few days to a few weeks, you go to jail, then likely prison for contempt of court, and when you get out, the debt collector won their judgement against you by default, any wages you try to get will be garnished, your credit score is absymal so you can’t get an apartment basically anywhere.

        • Case
          2·
          1 个月前

          I mean, it kind of is.

          Debtor’s prisons were never fair, but at least it usually involved adults who made their own choices.

          Kids can’t legally consent to anything - though I’m sure the republicans want to change that too.

  • ryedaft@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    41·
    1 个月前

    How did they never pay for anything? Shoplifting? Are they literally a statue of a Confederate general?

  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
    17·
    1 个月前

    I kinda understand their point of view here actually. Wanting to drag everyone down to their level. Burn it all down.

  • msage@programming.dev
    16·
    1 个月前

    A lot of different comments, and I know this is a greentext, but I wonder what people here think about americans who have 3 jobs and can only barely pull through?

    Such people have nothing more to lose, everybody constantly keeps forgetting about them, the homeless, sick people… the list goes on.

    And I’m not saying acceleration is good, but for the lost people, nothing good is coming from any side. And the pressure keeps getting worse. Even from the democrats.

    So what is the solution, achievable as the world is now?

    • taladar@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      1 个月前

      Such people have nothing more to lose,

      This is a very big flaw in that kind of argument. It might look like that but there are plenty of worse situations human beings have been in historically. There is no war going on, food and clean water and shelter (even with heating and lighting) are actually available,…

      • S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        6·
        1 个月前

        Absolutely! That kind of thinking of “I have nothing to lose” is pretty dangerous on politics. You still have a truckload more to lose. Mostly in matter of rights mostly but imagine being in worse dystopias the oligarchy would love to put you on just to squeeze an extra penny from you or better yet read about it in history books.
        The worst part is that it takes decades to fix the damage done, soon you realize there is no bottom to touch to think “you can only go up” there is only the moment you guys realize “enough is enough”.

        • _core@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          1 个月前

          That kind if abstract thinking isn’t in that person’s wheelhouse. They’re focused on their next meal, which bill to pay (or partially pay), and if that pain is worth the time/money lost going to urgent care. They aren’t thinking about the long term effects or side effects of political arguments.