• DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    It’s really unbelievable how stupid people are. I mean, if the inhuman ideology of these damn Nazis isn’t enough to put you off, then at least one look at the States should be enough to make you realize how incompetent and corrupt they are.

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      Something that comes out after guys like Trump have been in power is the voter regret. When asked why they voted for him they usually say the same 2 things: Either he was the only one talking about stuff the voter cared about, or they figured he would “shake things up” and/or change things. Note in that last part, the voter doesn’t really care what’s going to change or how it will happen, they’re just sick of the status quo.

      All of this is to say that yes people are stupid, but that also holds true the politicians who’ve been pedaling the status quo, or minimal change, for generations and ignoring the growing anger of people who’ll eventually vote for craziness in the name of “change.”

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        There is usually also a general lack of education and awareness involved how much worse things can get.

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        they figured he would “shake things up” and/or change things.

        Well, sure, but in this case it’s like getting annoyed at the soup always being too salty at the cafeteria, and switching to cat diarrhea instead… Sure, it does “shake things up” and it may even be less salty, but come on…

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        Here’s my problem with the latter. “Shaking things up” can only be the better option when things are completely in the shit. Like nothing is ever going to change, ever. But some voters (especially rural, low-information voters) seem to think it’s always the best idea - that no matter what, the person who “shakes things up” is better than a more measured candidate who seems to have ideas, even if they’re not great. It’s infuriating and I can’t give them a pass anymore.

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            It’s really easy to put it that easily, but frankly that’s also how you get fascism. Stop looking for easy answers. Some people are that hateful, but some people are also that stupid.

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      People are stupid. But when history is taught without a perspective of historical materialism they are so often unequipped (even if educated) to understand the incentives of these types of white supremacists (German supremacy).

      Fascist can lie and hide behind liberal ideas. Fooling liberals unequipped to recognize them. So AFD can shout “Germany for Germans” and they still won’t realize what it means. They see themselves as “German”. But we all know that definition narrows more and more as fascist take power.

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      In my experience people like that don’t read international news at all. They only read a highly editorialized view of national news too (e.g. BILD and similar "news"papers or the equivalents online).

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      We want change! Usually the only options are neoliberalism, which has failed us completely, or that new shiny fascism which allows us to vent our anger at minorities. We honestly should start building communes while we still have a bit of freedom.