I think there’s legitimate self-delusion that keeps some of them believing the centrist is the safe choice. Some of them delude themselves into thinking that being centrist is a good idea because people don’t like, “wokeness.” Some of them convince themselves that if they’re too progressive, the donors will abandon them and they won’t have enough money to win. I think the old timers like Carvil legitimately think that centrism is the best strategy because they can’t get past 1992. But yeah, I think deep down, they would all prefer losing with a neoliberal centrist than winning with an actual progressive, even if some of them won’t admit it.