The attack on the 50-year-old executive—allegedly by the now 27-year-old Luigi Mangione—immediately sparked an outpouring of public fury not at the gunman, but at UnitedHealthcare itself.
However, while it’s understandable for consumers to get angry at their health insurers, it is also important to remember “there is no easy answer” for such companies as they navigate costs and care, Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told Newsweek.
There is a very easy answer. Eliminate the health insurance companies. They do not improve healthcare and serve only to increase costs by extracting profit.
The profit motive does not belong in any industry of necessity.
The capitalists have metastasized into education, Healthcare, and bastardized any and all forms of food to maximize profit at the expense of their humanity.
They’ve brought us to our knees, and before the capitalists are done, death will be a mercy to most.
Education in the US was at its height when it received ample public funding.
death will be a mercy to most.
In the future, it will be a privilege to die, at least the way this train currently going
They are a wholly unnecessary middleman extracting a rent where none is due. They slow down the speed of care and needlessly complicate a very simple system.
It should not exist. They’re the landlords of medicine. Entirely pointless and nothing more than a detriment to the profession, service, and function of healthcare no matter if its picking up a z-pack for bronchitis or having a tumor removed. Healthcare insurance serves no purpose whatsoever.
A single, (truly) non profit insurer that has no ability to deny coverage and is fully funded by income tax could have an administrative purpose.
I’m not a specialist of the US healthcare problem but if we believe Marc Cuban, insurance is not the biggest cost problem.
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Luigi offers an easy answer
Fucking excellent. Hope we see a hundred more Luigi’s.
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I think a lot about a post I read that said something like “You hate every piece of capitalism, but you won’t connect the dots to see the big picture.”
People want to blame the queers or the blacks or the muslims or whatever, but it’s the capitalist class that’s shitting up the world. That’s why everything’s expensive and shitty, the environment is collapsing, everyone’s stressed and can’t get enough sleep.
The system is absolutely the problem and I know just shooting CEOs isn’t going to solve it, but it is mildly therapeutic to see them get some shit their way.
If they happen, the media will never let us see them. Just assume it’s happening and we’re all fed up with this shit.
Maybe they are happening and we don’t hear
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/employee-charged-killing-of-trucking-ceo-crestwood/
There are these blips but none of them really match the impact we got here. Maybe they learned to play them down, maybe the story as compelling.
The United Healthcare incident has the same vibe as Occupy Wall Street. That makes rich people very nervous.
Whilst, I understand your emotion. Always remember violence is never the answer. While, I agree one of the consequences of consensus based discussion is giving idiots a voice but by doing so is the only way forward.
You would let nazi Germany take over the world instead of going to war, because violence is never the answer?
Violence is absolutely the fucking answer sometimes.
Every right, legal or even just societal, that you have, down to fucking weekends and 40 hour work weeks existing as a concept, is because people less cowardly than you were willing to fight for them. Not fight with protest signs and stern facial expressions, but literal fights to the death. Like unions in shoot outs against the national guard kind of fights. Your platitudes are the result of brainwashing from an education system that intentionally leaves out the most important parts of history to convince us never to use the only tool that’s ever worked.
I can’t even start to understand how a healthcare organization has a stock price. They should be nonprofits to start with.
And this brings up the other thing they are struggling to recover from. They were sued by blackrock for taking care of people too well.
Blackrock, that investment firm that you can’t even divest from because your pension is tied to it. Which really peels back some layers on root cause analysis. Because blackrock and vanguard get management of this money pretty much by default when there is an institutional pension they have fuck you money. As in fuck you, it’s my money till 40 years in the future.
The Healthcare United CEO is just middle management. All he’s doing is taking orders in hopes doing that enough means his company survives. If he doesn’t then the private equity firms and banks just fund the guy who will.
Larry Fink is the real management.
They weren’t sued for helping take care of people. It was a misleading headline. Theyre getting sued for failing to commit to taking care of stock holders.
Prosecute United Healthcare for murdering their policy holders.
Literally murdering. They were asking healthcare providers at assisted living facilities to change elderly patients’ records to add DNRs that the patients hadn’t authorized.
Literally altering medical records to make sure people die instead of costing money.
Free Luigi, and compensate him with a few million dollars from United Healths bloated coffers for inflicting so much anguish on this innocent young man.
“corporate tragedy”
The Shakespeare of our time
Oh no…
Anyway
Isn’t this headline a bit legally sketchy being at he’s not been sentenced yet
This comment is legally sketchy being that in order to be sentenced you need to be guilty? He hasn’t been found guilty yet.
ESPECIALLY, since he was at my place, playing PS5 with me, when the Murder allegedly happened!
And either before or after he was at my place vibe coding some fixes for civ6. Guy is a real GOAT.
I was there when the murder happened. It was a one armed man. This whole thing is a witch hunt.
united health ceo shot hisself
Sorry yeah I meant that my brain went a step forward 😬
Bold of the writers to chose the word “Recover” as related to Luigi. Could have been something like, “United Healthcare Struggles to Resume Exploitation After Luigi” or “Unites Healthcare Struggles to Interfere with Healthcare after Lugi”.
Pretty sure their struggles aren’t b/C of Luigi. It’s b/c they murder people.
If only he had been born a corporation, they would only have charged him a fraction of any profit he made doing it.
Luigi allegedly killed one man
United Health kills thousands on a regular basis
EDIT: … thanks for the clarification (I’ll remember it from now on)
Luigi has yet to be convicted of anything, but the sentiment remains.
That’s even better
Luigi allegedly killed one man
United Health most definitely kills thousands on a regular basis as a matter of company savings and profits
I should additionally mention that I find the evidence that has been publicized so far has not convinced me they even have the right fucking guy
The nose is the wrong shape
I don’t think feds have not even turned it over to defense? Haven’t checked recently. But that’s a huge red flag. What happened with that chain of custody daddy?
ALLEGEDLY
I would actually pay real money to be on that jury.
Just remember: the answer to the question “do you know what jury nullification is” is “no, I’ve never heard of that”
yep, I dont know what you mean by that.
Exactly.
Have they tried not being evil by design?
BUT THE SHAREHOLDERS! /s
Literally. They got sued over it.
Maybe we need to be targeting share holders and not just CEOs
We tried being more evil, and when that didn’t work, we doubled down. We dont know why it isn’t working.
- UnitedHealthCare
Yes, but the profit growth rate decreased marginally, which was deemed absolutely unacceptable.
They tried being slightly less evil and their shareholders sued them.
Let’s not mess with Costco and costplusdrug please. Not all ceo are bad.
“if you raise the price of the hot dog, I will fucking kill you.”
The hot dog is a loss leader. They want you paying your membership fees, and that hot dog keeps you paying. While you’re paying, you probably also shovel a ton of money into the store buying all sorts of stuff. It may be a good deal for you, but it’s a fantastic deal for costco.
The idea is that companies should pursue profit, but not if the full fucking you without lube sense. Costco of course seeks to be profitable, but it has an “ethical” limit about to do so without harming the customers too much
Technically, you don’t need a membership for the food court, pharmacy, or to purchase alcohol, but the loss leader point still stands… Also the fact that we’re talking about it now proves that it works.
Damn, now I really want a costco hot dog.
No membership required for costco’s food court.
That’s changing now
Incorrect, they’re just temporarily not as bad as they could be.
Googles motto was “don’t be evil” they silently retired it as soon as it suited them to be evil.
Let’s hope for the best!!
Costco CEO is already covered as soon as they raise the price of the hot dog combo.
This is how they learn! Operant* Conditioning.
Lol what? No good CEO is good enough.
Typical
No im a proud tankie triad commie who flunked out of middle school and cant keep a job for more than a month. Everyone who has subordinates or wears glasses is the opressor.
The shooting “tarnished UnitedHealthcare’s reputation and disrupted its operational stability,” Ge Bai, a professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Maryland, told Newsweek.
No, it did not, don’t pin that one on Luigi.
UnitedHealthcare did that all on their lonesome, by profiteering on people’s pain and suffering.
“In a statement today, interim CEO of Cockroach Inc. expressed extreme displeasure that Luigi shined a light on their roaches nest for others to see.”
The shooting helped people realise just how united they are in their justified anger
This! The shooting allowed people to start counting themselves, and it looks like UH haters are a much bigger crowd than shareholders.
