It was a “rubber” bullet, but still.
It was a rubber coated metal bullet fired at close range.
You do not shoot someone unless you want them dead.
Shit, as prior military we were taught you don’t point your weapon at anything or anyone unless you’re prepared to pull the trigger. The fact that all the others on that line had their weapons down, but this dude has his up the whole time, tells you all you need to know about the lack of training of that individual.
Lack of training
On the contrary, these pigs are doing exactly what the people in power want them to.
Pay no attention to LAPD, we purposely trained them wrong… as a joke.
Pssst…
Its not just the LAPD
We put too much stock in training here, for things that should be obvious. How do we know you shouldn’t do that? I haven’t had any police training.
This is related to that “qualified immunity” bullshit. Somehow we let what could have been an appropriate thing turn into cops being above the law except in rare cases they were specifically trained for and there is existing case law. Bullshit. All too many of these look interesting headline cases start with “any sane person knows …” yet cops are above the law
None of the other cops stopped him from firing his weapon at the innocent lady
Yeah, that was close enough to kill. She might have internal bleeding for all we know.
That is fucking nuts. If you have 50 police officers you do not need to shoot a woman who is VERY clearly not a fucking threat. Holy shit they treated her like she was carrying
My european brain could not handle why this would be the way to treat a pregnant person until I realized, that this might be about a weapon instead of a child.
The context might make this obvious for people who are more used to guns than babies, but I was very confused.
My Canadian brain was in the same boat. I had to wonder if it was an joke about cops shooting pregnant people that I wasn’t american enough to understand.
So it IS a cultural misunderstanding. Nice to know, that I am not the only one confused. 😃
They kept shooting at her even when she was limping away crying and someone trying to help her. So being a threat I think was the least of their concerns. Seems more like they were enjoying target practice.
reminder that “non lethal weapons” are actually just “less lethal weapons”. rubber bullets, tear gas and tasers absolutely can and have killed people.
I was wondering, if someone shot rubber bullets at a cop, would they be charged with attempted murder or assault?
In America, you can be charged with murder if the piggly wiggly arresting you works too hard and has a heart attack.
So shooting anything at a cop is most likely summary execution at the scene.
You don’t even have to shoot anything. You don’t even have to be holding something capable of shooting something. The cop just has to say that from their perspective it kind of looked like you might have been holding something that could have been capable of shooting something and they’d likely be able to justify murdering you.
If anyone ever doubts this, go watch some police body worn camera videos. They routinely shoot people for things like this and get away with it. Then on videos where someone ambushes the police, the right wing lunatics watching will always say “See? This is why they are so jumpy!” as if it’s totally justified.
“The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.”
No way I could be a cop. If I was standing in line with those guys and saw my coworker shoot a girl close range I’d punch him in the face. This is what people mean when they say ACAB. There’s no way a decent person can see a woman get shot like that and not want to help.
I could never date a cop either. Imagine the type of harm and harassment they could unleash on you if you broke up with them.
I wouldn’t even be friends with a cop.
I’m polyamorous. I won’t even date someone who dates cops.
I would but only keep them in the dungeon in a cage.
I’ve known two people that were briefly cops. They got out around one to two years doing it. That’s about how long you can be a cop before the other cops expect you to mutually get your hands dirty.
Literally a gang of horrible fascist
America’s oldest and largest state-sanctioned gang.
I wouldn’t even be friends with a cop.
I absolutely won’t be friends with one. They have a dangerous mentality of escalating non-violent situations into violent ones, and they’ll never admit when they are wrong. Not the type of people I would ever want to associate with.
If I was standing in line with those guys and saw my coworker shoot a girl close range I’d punch him in the face.
You are right, no way you could be a cop.
I could, I’m morally dubious enough to ignore it. Then hand out coffee spiked with arsenic.
Hollywood needs to pump out more REAL cop shows, where they show how cowardly, fat and racists cops are.
But when Hollywood did, nobody wanted to actually talk about Rampart.
Haha holy shit rampart. What a dumpster fire of an ama.
For those that are curious Web search
Rampart Woody Harrelson ama
I don’t know, it seemed like at least one person wanted to talk about Rampart (exclusively).
The only things that can get made here anymore are commercials and corporate slop. Need funding for film and TV so some real shit gets made not just the usual garbage
The purpose of Hollywood is entertainment and helping out manufacture consent (not necessarily in that order), not raising awareness on subjects were people’s increased awareness would threaten the power of the elites, so when it comes to the minions of the elites it’s pretty much all either “Heroes of Justice” (with a side of “anything is acceptable in the pursuit of Justice” or, at most, “Most are Good Guys but there’s a few bad apples”.
That’s actually what Hollywood did until the red scare. Hence the “keystone cops” of early cinema.
Maybe not every single one of them will shoot an unarmed civilian, but all of them just stood by and did nothing.
Verdict: ACAB.
It would be funny if one of them arrested the shooter on the spot
Person who took this video is an actual hero. I don’t want to imagine what could have happened to that woman without them.
Also: don’t make the mistake of looking at the replies to this on Twitter. I forgot just how bad it was, but nearly every top reply is by verified accounts trying to justify this somehow. It’s actually insane to me the complete lack of empathy these people show - past party lines and political differences, isn’t this obviously a bad thing that shouldn’t have happened?
It’s a Nazi bar. Don’t expect reasonable posts from Nazi’s. There is no cross party lines with them.
I abandoned Twitter for Mastodon a few months after Musk bought Twitter. I figured I’d keep the account around to DM people who there, just in case my need to do so arose. Then I kinda forgot about it. Cut to a few months ago I sent a message to someone on a different service. I knew they were doing a project, but I politely asked them “hey, do you have the interest and time to do xyz?”
They said “I’m sorry, I’d normally love to, I’m just really busy right now and don’t have the time; you probably know I’m doing ABC myself.” And that was legit. But they added “Also, you should know I generally don’t work with people who have Twitter accounts anyway, for future reference.”
Initially I was “But wait, I don’t USE it…” But I took a few minutes to think about it. I mean, he wasn’t wrong. I DID have an account at the Nazi bar… And I don’t use it. It just lends my name to the service for no benefit to me. And that’s why I decided to download my data and delete my account. Sometimes calling people out (in a helpful way,) can be a positive.
And that, dear reader, not necessarily the person I’m replying to but you reading this, is now me reminding you that you can delete your Twitter account and stop supporting the Nazi bar.
Also, I was thinking. These are the incidents that we are getting to see. How many will occur when someone’s not rolling the whole time.
That’s what I wanted to leave here as well.
The coloured girl immediately overcome her fear, crossed the street very aware of her surroundings and defended that shot girl.
She observed the situation, decided to put herself into danger to assist this foreigner. Such a strong and lovely human beeing 💪.
I leave her my deepest respect. Whish I could give her a huge hug as a thanks.
Manufacturers of “less lethal” rubber rounds do not consider them safe at that range. They’re considered very dangerous with a high risk of death within about 10 meters.
That’s a seriously injured, unarmed, citizen and not only do they not lift a finger to help they seem to fire at the woman trying to help her.
You’re also supposed to bounce them off the ground. Never a direct hit.
I think you’re thinking of tear gas rounds. Trying to bounce rubber bullets sounds less predictable. But yeah, don’t shoot this close, especially not at a peaceful citizen.
Nah, it’s the non lethal rounds they fire, but it sounds like there are newer ones as well that can be fired directly.
Originally, they were intended to be bounced off the ground when the British designed them.
Looks like LAPD now use some that are intended to be bounced off the ground, and some that are meant to be fired directly at the target.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-MIGRATION/PROTEST-LOSANGELES-WEAPONS/zdpxalxkyvx/
In fact, the LAPD does not use rubber bullets, the department told Reuters.
Instead, the LAPD uses foam rounds, a condensed sponge projectile that resembles a hard Nerf ball.
One version, which has a plastic body with a hard foam nose, is fired from a 40mm launcher and is usually aimed directly at a target.
A second version, fired from a 37mm launcher, disperses five foam baton rounds toward the ground in front of a hostile crowd once an unlawful assembly has been declared, before bouncing up into the crowd. It is not to be fired directly at individuals, the LAPD said.
However in the past, even with ones that are meant to be targeted at the ground, police have often been found aiming them at people. So I wouldn’t be surprised if/when the LAPD fires the 37mm versions directly at people either.
Ah, didn’t know that. Thank you for educating me.
I thought they were all supposed to be at the ground as well, so I learned too!
Wait, so LAPD is armed with nerf guns?
I would bet money they used that language to make them seem less dangerous than they are.
Well, she might have been an undercover reporter, what choice did they have?
Obviously Hamas
AND THE LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND OF THE FREEEEEEEEEEEE AND THE HOOOOOOOOOOME OF THEEEEEEEE BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAVEEEE…
Remember that part of your anthem America?
TBF you do have to be pretty fucking brave to live there.
Or white
That person was white.
Fact, and the privilege to even consider let alone walk to a like of cops in full anti-riot gear should be saying something.
I think being a woman lessens the privilege a bit.
What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.
Ah shit, the government is the one who said that…
(It’s a song lyric from Rage Against the Machine)
(I didn’t know, but that makes sense)
... Mind of a revolutionary, so clear the lane The finger to the land of the chains What? The "land of the free"? Whoever told you that is your enemy Now something must be done about vengeance, a badge, and a gun ... Know Your Enemy by Rage Against The Machine
The land of the fee and the home of the slave
I think it’s because downtown LA had a curfew. But that’s kinda bullshit because where else would this person go if she came home after working a night shift? Sleeping outside would also break curfew
She was a local resident trying to get to her home
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. These fucking pigs that don’t even deserve to be on the same level of pigs
Real pigs are capable of empathy, unlike these fascist bastards
Stories like this are why despise Biden and Obama so much. Both enthusiastically armed the police while pretending to support change and helped give them this sense of invincibility, and both had the power to make real change in policing but cared more about being reelected than doing the right thing.
Despite Obama’s “hope and change” promises the first time around, they were both status quo presidents who needed to ensure the dominance of the state above all else.
But don’t you wish we had status quo now? I could go for a little stability and respect with a side of human rights and investment in the future
a side of human rights
You mean like expanding the United States’ illegal drone assassination program?
That status quo comfort you’re yearning for is exactly what lead us here in the first place.
That stays quo was built on incredible amounts of violence inflicted on the global south, and now the imperial boomerang is coming back around.
So no, I don’t wish we had ‘a bit of that status quo’.
Bombs for peace ™.
I was replying with something snarky like ‘hey Alexa how many people did we kill in the Middle East while I was big chilling’ so thank you for producing an actual productive response first
Ah yes love that stability built on the sounds of millions of broken backs it was built upon and the silent screams of the drowning poor. Stings like respect for human life and investment for the rich should.
Status quo was just ignoring the pain of those that had to be crushed beneath to give the false sense of everything remaining the same for the last 20 years.
I’m not sad to see it go just mad with what is replacing it.Good news, we have the status quo now
Bad news, you want the status quo ante
Didn’t take long to tie actions under a Republican admin to Democrats. Par for the course.
That’s because these things do not happen in a vacuum, and if said Democratic presidents had made real reforms, the actions Trump is committing right now wouldn’t be possible.
Yep, and the “block everything” McConnell senate of Obama’s terms would have allowed that reform too. You could conceivably make that argument about Biden for 2 fucking years if not for Sinnema(sp?) and that chucklefuck from WV.
The Dems are feckless but the president can’t just decree shit. (well, unless you’re trump I guess)
McConnell made things difficult, sure, but Obama had a supermajority for eight months of his first term.
Biden had Manchin and Sinema, but he wasn’t without recourse. He could have targeted Manchin’s daughter for regulation or investigation, because her company price gouges for prescription drugs and kills people. Sinema could have been stripped of all of her committee assignments, which would have made bribing her worthless and impacted her financially as well as severely limiting her power as a swing vote.
But, at the end of the day, you pointed out the most critical thing. Presidents have power. They just need to be willing to wield it in order to create change. The reason you’re seeing Democrats participate in fascism and pretend to be powerless is that it serves their wealthy benefactors and they’re happy to take those $100k bribes, I mean, “speech” engagements.
“Rubber” bullets are steel bullets coated in rubber.
And can easily break bones or maim if used incorrectly.
… or fully rubber or wood or foam or kevlar baggies full of lead or any combination of those.
Do they think they are using paintball guns? What’s going on?
No cop has ever been held accountable for whatever bullshit they pull when they’re in riot gear. They’re basically anonymous and the worst that will happen is a civil settlement with the city (which won’t even come out of the police budget!).
It’s not like paintball doesn’t hurt a lot from this range either…
Have you seen the damage caused by their bullets? It’s like using frozen paintballs, at the high end of allowed PSI, but the size of a golf ball. LA civilians rn are under hostile armed force. They need an armed* resistance to take out the members of the police that do not act as police. They do not get punished. They just get deployed again.
*I know this is difficult. Non lethal weapons are harder to obtain than lethals, and the moment the resistance use lead is the moment the invading army do too.
“Less lethal” as in “lethal less often [than bullets].”
Remember that there is no such thing as a “non lethal” weapon and these blackshirts are casually gambling with other peoples lives
Psychopaths want to bully and hurt people (especially “the libs” protesting), and there’s no consequences for them.
FUCK LAPD , ITS TIME TO REVOLT
