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I had them for all of 5min before returning them- they’re heavy af. My neck ain’t built to sustain that kind of weight.
Never tried them. The best headphones / “earspeakers” I ever tried were Stax. They blew me away. 2k $ tho. I have the much more reasonably priced Sennheiser HD 650 and AKG 712 pro with a FiiO DAC/AMP, which are both light and comfy.