• PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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    7 days ago

    Out of all the many negative cultural affectations of Americans, trying to pin the extremely common across cultures of “It could be worse” as uniquely or exceptionally American is fucking bizarre.

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      7 days ago

      It is not scientific proof, but i used an LLM to make an overview of where negative social comparison is most common

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        7 days ago

        “It could be worse” in this sense is not a downward comparison with relevance to individualism, personal success, or meritocracy. What’s being said is not “We’re SUPERIOR INDIVIDUALS unlike those NASTY POORS from the PAST”, it’s “Fuck, things might be bad, but it’s good to keep our own circumstances in perspective.”

        Also, mandatory fuck LLMs as a replacement for thought.

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          You obviously shouldn’t use LLMs to think, but they are essentially machines that parrot the average Internet user (or in Grok’s case, the average Internet Nazi). Using them to get a tentative guess at what Internet users say isn’t the worst idea.

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          I don’t see a difference between the two, besides the attitude and the capitalization. Being an asshole or being compassionate while comparing to people who are less fortunate, to affirm or confirm that you are better off, is imo the same.

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            7 days ago

            In which case no comparisons are acceptable, and no relative estimations can ever be made.

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              and no relative estimations can ever be made

              Oh they can! It’s just not good to do. The question is not if it can be done or not. It’s more if it is a good thing and if it is culturally acceptable

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                Oh they can! It’s just not good to do. The question is not if it can be done or not. It’s more if it is a good thing and if it is culturally acceptable

                … you say as you make relative estimations about Americans.

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                  I am not perfect. But i dont compare myself to Americans to prove that i am better. I just state what is commonly perceived as a practice in America.

                  That said, i live in a country that is placed at the opposite side of the range set by that LLM and maybe because of that we may see at it as a negative practice.

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                    7 days ago

                    But i dont compare myself to Americans to prove that i am better.

                    The American mentality of 'Yeah its bad, but it could be worse" or “Yeah this sucks but at least or sucks more for someone else”

                    It solves nothing, as long as there are people doing worse than you. Maybe this is why they are trying so hard to mess up the lives of people who already are messed up