The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don’t think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the “second in command”

  • goat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    36·
    2 years ago

    Correct, they do lie, which is why engaging with them is easy. you can point out their lie and mock them, which convinces anyone who is unaware of the lies.

    Also really now? you think I’m a fascist?

      • goat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        13·
        2 years ago

        If they don’t know what they’re doing, it should be easy to prove them wrong and make them look silly. You can also try to argue via emotions.

          • goat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            05·
            2 years ago

            What a poor argument. They want to be in their echo-chamber.

            We should encourage those who are brave enough to wander outside of it.

              • goat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                05·
                2 years ago

                The problem being that the majority of them wander out to share the same opinions, not to have their mind changed and that leads to radicalisation when their message reaches people that are sensible to it but that are still on the fence.

                ommmgg, you’re making my point but you’re not even realising it. We should engage with them when they move out of their safe-spaces because then those on the fence see how stupid the alt-righters are.

    • shani66@burggit.moeEnglish
      21·
      2 years ago

      I got no idea of you’re fash or not, but you are clearly acting in bad faith. Trying to apply the paradox of tolerance to someone using the paradox of tolerance? Not denying the place your defending is awful, but instead trying to say quarantining it is bad for reasons? Trying to suggest that viewpoints completely divorced from reality are completely valid?

      Mocking shitheels is a great passtime, but engaging with someone who lies about the basic facts of reality is nearly impossible. A COVID denier, just to bring it all back around in a single comment, will just deny evidence has any merit. Look at the latest trans freak outs, again to keep it to a single reply, it’s ‘people’ objectively lying and claiming kids get surgery when that doesn’t happen.

      • goat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        34·
        2 years ago

        No. I’m clearly not a fascist. I’m quite the opposite, in fact, I’m staunchly democratic.

        I’m acting in bad faith? No, I’m not. I’m actively engaging with you, I’m not shutting you down or refusing your points or values.

        So many misuse what the Paradox is, I blame American politics. The paradox of intolerance clearly states;

        I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies ; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force ; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument ; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law

        My entire point is that if users come here from outside their safe-spaces, we are free to engage and challenge their bigoted views. Will it change their opinion? Perhaps, Daryl Davis believes so and from experience, so do I. Regardless, at least it will show to others how outdated and stupid these views are. Do you agree with me on that?

        When their claim is easy to disprove, then disprove it. If they say that it’s fake-news, then it only makes them look like an idiot.