• Jaysyn@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I know all of us non-fascists want Trump in prison yesterday, but I can appreciate how methodical they are being about this.

    No mistakes or emotions means no mistrials & few excuses for appeals.

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        I don’t fucking get it, it seems like the whole system is set up for people like Trump to actively exploit it.

        Of course the system is set up for the people with money and power to exploit it, who do you think set up the system? It’s always been heavily slanted to provide protection to those who can afford it.

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        Trump acting in bad faith, saying whatever he wants, and strutting around like he’s above the law are all things that severely undermine his legal defense. He lost the rape civil suit because he so thoroughly demonstrated his shitty character. Incredibly damning evidence is admissible because he’s lost attorney client privilege thanks to Trump and his attorneys engaging criminal and fraudulent activity together. He’s constantly feeding new evidence to the prosecution by making public statements that contradict his previous statements, are incompatible with his defense, or even just admit to facts which support the prosecution’s case.

        The prosecution needs an ironclad case because this has to stick. We can’t afford to leave room for appeals, or for a friendly judge to to find an excuse to get him off the hook. We need a case so overwhelming that even a rabid MAGA supporter in the jury will be unable to stomach a not guilty verdict. It sucks, but there’s no getting around it.

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        I mean, I get it, but like… so the other side (Trump & co.) is able to make mistakes and be absurdly emotional over petty fucking bullshit, and it’s just sort of accepted and okay for them?

        Yes.

        Defendants of any sort should be afforded every latitude. Criminal convictions are supposed to be reserved only for those whose guilt is proven beyond the shadow of doubt. Anyone accused of a crime should be free to present any defense they want, while the state should be handcuffed to the constitution and hobbled by the law.

        I’m convinced that Trump belongs in prison, but it’s up to the state to prove it.

        • BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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          I’m convinced that Trump belongs in prison, but it’s up to the state to prove it.

          Given the long record of witness tampering and intimidation and such that’s well-documented and has been for years, my feel is it’s ABOUT FUCKING TIME the state decided to take up the question.

          I mean, yes- burden of proof and all, but when the defendant has been bragging he did all of these things in public and on media and in speeches to crowds, it was time to do all of this a long time ago

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        The asymmetry you’re talking about is the presumption of innocence, and I would prefer not to “reform” that. Trump isn’t guilty of leading a coup until he’s convicted of leading a coup with every t crossed and every i dotted.

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    1 year ago

    If I had a dollar for each time I heard “Trump going to jail!” I’d have more money than he does

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    they don’t seem to understand that it’s impossible to put this person in jail that’s not a thing you can’t do it

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      Usually I would agree, but this time I have to agree. The only thing that will happen is ______.