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      Ok, I have to ask. How would you apply this to any other conflict. For example the Allies fighting against Germany. Where did the German civilians fall in the spectrum of evil. Was fighting Germany justified, knowing that German civilians might suffer? If so, how is this situation different?

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          But you’re still ok with using artillery against a city if the city has an army in it?

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              What? Why? Where did I say that? What the fuck are you talking about?

              I asked how this conflict was different and you started talking about a completely different topic like stategic bombing. But Israel isn’t using strategic bombing, they’re using artillery and missiles. Just like how the allies did against Berlin and other German cities when fighting the Germans. So how is this different?

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                  This isn’t… COMPLICATED.

                  Honestly that’s a pretty strange thing to say about one of history’s most complicated and oldest conflicts. If it was as simple as random dudes online think it is, don’t you think this issue would have been somehow resolved by now?

                  Both the Israelis and the Palestinians have tribal roots in the region dating back thousands of years.

                  The region also has religions significance to all three of the big western religions.

                  And to make it even more complicated, the region has been under the control of multiple empires over the last 3000 years: waring tribes, Egyptians, Assyrians, Romans, Byzantines, the second Muslim caliphate, the Ottomans, the British, and I’m sure I’m skipping more. Israel and Palestine as nations where effectively created at around the same time post WW1 (see the Mandate for Palestine and the Balfour Declaration).

                  So sure… It’s possible that you’re so much smarter than everyone else that one of the world’s oldest conflicts is trivial to you, OR, just maybe it’s a little bit more complicated than you and some other people let on…

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                  Israel pulled out of Palestine in 2005 and Palestine elected their own government, at that point they’re an independent nation.