“fired” implies “termination with cause”. That is, they believe you screwed up and so you were let go without severance, and in a pinch they’re willing to go to court on that.
“Laid off” implies they did bulk downsizing and unless the company finds a way to weasel out of it, there’s going to be severance and employment insurance payouts and the like.
In the Southern states this is a distinction without a difference because they just shoot you in the face and toss you into the body pit there regardless of the cause of the termination of your employment, but in the rest of the world this distinction is real.
“To be laid off”, or even better “to be let go”, are fucking euphemisms for “fired”, “kicked out”, etc.
That sort of vocabulary is typically used by HR to sound more benevolent, whereas when it’s happening to you, you’ll use the more aggressive terms.
According to the guys who left, Management forced unrealistic targets on the Editor in Chief, then used him not meeting those targets as an excuse to fire him. Everybody else quit in response.
Man people choose weird hills to fight over on the internet, you’re right. Firing implies the worker did something wrong, laid off implies that they didnt
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Nick was supposedly fired for failing to meet goals, goals he was apparently never informed that he should be targeting.
Sounds like they were manufacturing a reason to fire him, then.
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Depending on employment law in his state, that may be actionable.
Ah yes, sounds like a job.
Well, Nick used that term and he‘s probably in a position to know if it‘s the right one.
Fired and laid off are like buy and purchase - perfect synonyms.
“fired” implies “termination with cause”. That is, they believe you screwed up and so you were let go without severance, and in a pinch they’re willing to go to court on that.
“Laid off” implies they did bulk downsizing and unless the company finds a way to weasel out of it, there’s going to be severance and employment insurance payouts and the like.
In the Southern states this is a distinction without a difference because they just shoot you in the face and toss you into the body pit there regardless of the cause of the termination of your employment, but in the rest of the world this distinction is real.
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Layoff is just a euphemism for firing people. It is meant to make the company sound better when they fire larger numbers of employees.
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Be pedantic if you want, either way the person is unemployed.
FWIW you’re both right lol.
“To be laid off”, or even better “to be let go”, are fucking euphemisms for “fired”, “kicked out”, etc.
That sort of vocabulary is typically used by HR to sound more benevolent, whereas when it’s happening to you, you’ll use the more aggressive terms.
According to the guys who left, Management forced unrealistic targets on the Editor in Chief, then used him not meeting those targets as an excuse to fire him. Everybody else quit in response.
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Man people choose weird hills to fight over on the internet, you’re right. Firing implies the worker did something wrong, laid off implies that they didnt