• Ertebolle@kbin.social
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    obviously doesn’t contribute much to the discussion.

    On the contrary, calling J. K. Rowling a malevolent rich old F.A.R.T. elevates the discussion greatly.

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      It is definitely very cathartic.

      Caelan Conrad has a video on the topic because they’ve gotten called out for acquiescing and using the term GC.

      They mean that calling them TERF gives them an opening to shift the topic and start acting as victims, something they’re very glad to do.

      It also means that when we talk about TERFs allying with neo-nazis and facists, we’re tying that to the phrase TERF, meaning there will be no opposing viewpoint when you search for Gender Critical.

      In essence, they mean that by showing TERFs the ironic courtesy of respecting their pronouns, we remove their ability to control/derail the conversation, and lets us relate all the horrible things they do and say with their preferred label.

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        Interesting.

        My personal take is that - as with so many other conservative groups - they’re going to act like victims regardless of what we call them, and referring to them politely has the effect of legitimizing their position. I suppose to a naive bystander it might make it seem like two groups of crazy people yelling at each other, but I’d still take that over a polite talk show roundtable any day.

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          I do get where you’re coming from, I used to have the same opinion really, but ultimately that changed when I gave it some thought. When arguing with TERFs I don’t really expect to convert them, I care more about people that aren’t too involved in the discussion to know just how heinous these people are.

          Calling them TERFs to their faces will just turn whatever conversation you have to be about them and how oppressed they are, and I honestly don’t give a rat’s arse about them, and I don’t want to give them the ammunition to shoot us with.

          I want the term Gender Critical to reflect how toxic these people are. When people Google “gender critical” I want the first page to talk about how misogynist they are. I want headlines that mention how they support the psychological torture of children. I want it to mention how they work with neo nazis, proud boys, and facists to get their message across. I want front and center focus on how many people are hurt and die because of their bigotry.

          Because it isn’t about them. It’s about the people they hurt. It’s about the people they campaign for to not receive healthcare and safety. It’s about the people that kill themselves because society has denied them the right to live and they don’t see any other out. It’s about all the LGBTQ+ children that live in silence, and grow to fear and loathe who they are because of the hateful adults their lives.

          Those are the people that matter. The TERFs can take a long walk off a short pier for all I care.