A majority of younger veterans said they feel uncomfortable when they are told “thank you for your service,” a new poll found.

Ahead of Veterans Day on Saturday, a survey found disparities between young military members and their older counterparts in how they prefer to be recognized for their service.

Among younger military members and veterans — age 18 to 29 — 70 percent said they feel uncomfortable or awkward when they are thanked for their service. Only 24 percent of older members, 65 years and up, say the same, the Endeavor Analytics and YouGov poll found.

“This data shows that military service members and our veterans want Americans to go beyond small talk to connect with them on a deeper level, including learning more about their service, honoring each veteran’s service in ways in which they feel comfortable talking about it,” Robert F. Whittle Jr., retired Army major general and United Services Automobile Association (USAA) chief of staff, said in a statement.

  • @[email protected]
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    1448 months ago

    It’s a weird thing to do. The lionization of the military is unhealthy for a democracy.

    Thank a teacher, doctor, scientist or firefighter instead.

  • @[email protected]
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    928 months ago

    I’ve always thought it was more for the person doing the thanking wanting everyone around know they’re more patriotic than everyone else

    • @[email protected]
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      508 months ago

      Performative patriotism.

      No different than trying to have the most flags on your house.

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      8 months ago

      I guess I always thought it was the thing to do, growing up in the wake of viet nam. I don’t anymore b/c I’ve heard from many not to.

  • @[email protected]
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    878 months ago

    I think veterans want to reintegrate into society and being recognized and thanked makes them feel “othered” rather than respected and appreciated.

    • gregorum
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      138 months ago

      This sounds like the most concise description of the experience

      • @[email protected]
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        248 months ago

        “I was trained to be a killer for 8 weeks, and was nothing but for 21 years. I was given 2 weeks to become a civilian again.”

        -MSgt Brad “Iceman” Colbert

        (Apologies if not fully accurate, I’d have to go find the interview again)

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    688 months ago

    34 here, I absolutely hate being told thank you for my service and generally don’t reveal I was in the military if I can avoid it. I have no interest in being associated with the crowd of morons happy to send other people’s kids to war and then refuses to take care of them when they come back.

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      268 months ago

      Every time I see someone with one of those fucking hats on (you know the ones) it makes me cringe so hard. Like those dudes who get there basic training company tattooed on their arm, or even worse, a combat patch tattoo hahaha. You now how many fucking boots got first cav tattoos after deployment? Lol. POGs everyone of them.

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            Why would Vietnam vet hat make you cringe? Those guys got spat on when they came home. If they want to wear a hat now why not?

            After you left service maybe you put your time behind you, and that’s fine. But why would a Vietnam vet hat make you cringe?

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              28 months ago

              There is no hate in my cringe but the cringe is real. There is an entire “boot” culture you aren’t aware of. Trust me on this one.

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        08 months ago

        Eh, they can have a purpose. If you don’t want anyone to talk to you then you wear the dirty salt stained one. Or if you’re tired of people assuming your service dog is fake then put on a nice clean one. Instantly 100% less questions about “why do you have a dog?”

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    618 months ago

    Hell I’m 50 and I hate that shit. It’s the most pandering, “thought and prayers” bs since “thoughts and prayers”

    • be_excellent_to_each_other
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      Yep, I don’t like it one bit when said to me, and the one time I said it to a much younger vet I’d met I immediately felt uncomfortable having said it. (And I think he was uncomfortable too.)

      I joined up because I didn’t know what I wanted to do with my life, enjoyed a brief flare of patriotism during and after bootcamp, learned some marketable skills, hated being in by the time I’d been in a year, and got back out as soon as I could to get paid for those skills as a civilian.

      Yeah it sucked, and I guess I’m glad that folks appreciate that it sucked, but no one should thank me personally for it. It was my choice to join, and I did it primarily due to a lack of other good options.

      I appreciate the veterans that have come after, but generally find the military worship at certain concerts and such to be a bit over the top.

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        08 months ago

        See? This is exactly what the article is talking about. Most people join up to do a job. They don’t get to decide if that job is done in Korea or Iraq. The politicians decide that.

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    428 months ago

    Im not a younger veteran, but I’ve learned not to tell anyone that I am. I don’t want people to thank me for stuff Im ashamed of from 20 years ago.

    • Ænima
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      Well if you’re not one, why would you tell someone that you are a young veteran? They can probably tell unless you age backwards like Benjamin Button.

      Sorry, couldn’t resist.

      For what it’s worth, I’m a 39-year-old veteran and also dislike being thanked for my service. I just don’t know how to respond to it. I feel like, “you’re welcome” or, “no problem” is not appropriate. I also don’t know how to respond to most complements.

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        28 months ago

        For a few years now, I’ve replied with “Thank you for your support.” However I think I may start adding something like “You should look up wounded warriors and make a donation, they’re the ones that really need it.” Or some other org for disabled vets.

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    328 months ago

    It’s always been weird, it’s a job, do you tell the Starbucks employee that serves our country and helps keep the American economy going “thank you for your service”? It would make sense if we didn’t have a volunteer military but we do so it’s the same as thanking anyone for the job they do if they see you in your work uniform

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      198 months ago

      I only say it to bus drivers because they are the thin khaki line that stands between peace and total societal collapse

      • @I_dont_believe_it
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        48 months ago

        As a bus driver myself I couldn’t agree more, and thank you.

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      58 months ago

      Even when it’s more than a job think about what you’re actually encapsulating in such a mundane phrase. People lost friends, limbs, even their sanity, and so much of society thinks hearing “Thank You” is all vets need.

      Then the VA is falling apart, claims are a mental health problem themselves, and getting care in some of the hospitals is a battle itself. But it’s all okay because someone said thank you.

      At a certain age group it also comes off a bit insulting in that they didn’t sign up during wartime. But they were sent to a war because of a massive amount of lies.

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      38 months ago

      I do thank my local coffee shop for keeping me sane and alive during COVID lockdown when I was working night stock.

    • prole
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      28 months ago

      Do you already forget all of the “thank you for your service” things for first responders during COVID?

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    328 months ago

    I feel uncomfortable when people thank me for my service and I wasn’t even in the military. I was a civilian working for the Air Force and it’s on my resume so I’m always thanked at interviews. It’s always so shallow, like a greeting.

    “Hi! How’s your day? Thank you for your service!”

    “No I didn’t fight. I was a civilian doing engineering work in support.”

    • Ænima
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      18 months ago

      And you know they probably paid those taxes cause a capitalist wouldn’t be caught dead thanking a veteran outside of making them money, sadly.

      • @[email protected]
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        08 months ago

        Military members would say that because of the type of people in the 2000s who would thank every military member, they also would claim taxes are theft. They are also the type that now support Trump and hate the military.

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      I’ve been in veteran circles, including qualifying for USAA benefits due to the service of family. I think he’s pretty accurate. Combat vets want a compassionate person to listen to their traumatic experiences, because most people use it as a thoughtless phrase to say, like saying thanks for someone opening a door. Most people saying it don’t want to know about the horrors they’ve seen. I’ve seen it in all of my family members and several friends that served in combat, they just want to be heard. The VA does what it can, but they need more funding to provide good therapists to vets.

      The other vets that don’t like it usually didn’t serve in a combat role and don’t feel like they deserve it.

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      38 months ago

      Seriously, talk about jumping to conclusions. Maybe younger vets know that the more recent wars have been a farce and aren’t excessively proud of doing it, not like they get a choice in the matter.

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      208 months ago

      The correct gear to be wearing to get alcohol for sure.

    • @enragedzeus05
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      48 months ago

      What? Was this an active duty base?! I’d imagine this person just sitting at the front gate thanking every car.

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        28 months ago

        It was on an active base but it was a high school student that might have been there on a field trip or something. All I know is that I hated every moment of the interaction lol.

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    I was at a doctor’s office and an old guy was wearing a cap for his naval boat and someone else had to go over and shake his hand and thank him for his service. You’re at a doctor’s office! Don’t fucking shake people’s hands!

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        48 months ago

        *engages in sensual wide open mouth to mouth kissing, speaking while directly attached to his mouth cavity*

        Thank you for your service

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    278 months ago

    Or we could treat them like people and not revere a shitty job they had in their early 20s. Idk that’s what my veteran friends seem to prefer

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        I think that’s a big difference. These weren’t lads off fighting fascism in France and liberating concentration camps in Poland. Many of them were the tip of the spear of an illegal, immoral invasion that, retrospectively, has become toxic to have ever supported (unless you’re a Republican, then nobody cares).

        Lucky for some current military folks in countries that still have functioning liberal democracies, you guys may have a chance to return the favor (that is, killing fascist scum) in the US within the next decade or so.