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I figure it has more to do with the fact that the ICE car comes with a lifetime of engine and other maintenance that the dealership is looking to cash in on long after the warranty is expired. Even within the warranty, EVs don’t need oil changes. Just brakes and tires, which are done much less frequently. And after the warranty, it’s a long list of minor repairs to engine components, not to mention supporting all the emission control stuff. It’s a gravy train and they don’t want to get off.
That’s a good point. They make their money on service not sales
Many states actually have laws that ban Tesla from selling directly. More have laws limiting the number of stores that a manufacturer can have.
Only 14 allow unrestricted direct sales, and many of them only apply to companies that either don’t already have franchise agreements or only sell EVs.
Manufacturers would LOVE to cut out the middlemen and sell direct today.
Has anyone ever gone to a dealership and left feeling like it went great? You prepare for a fight, there’s fees everywhere, and you can’t trust a thing they say. The whole model needs to change. I own my car and don’t plan on getting a new one anytime soon, but my wife leases, and it’s a pain in the balls everytime we have to go to get a new one because we know they’re trying to get over on us and we have to play defense.
Absolutely right. Consistently awful dealership experiences are the primary reason I have kept my cars for a long time. If the dealers weren’t so miserable I would have owned twice as many vehicles and would be driving something much newer right now. Who needs a fight and to spend tens of thousands of dollars just to end up feeling screwed?
It seems like some of the car manufacturers might have figured that out by now.
Buying a Tesla was a great experience. You go in and test drive the car (while knowing the price it’ll cost before leaving the house) to make sure it’s a good fit. If you like it you can talk to them about ordering one and they’ll walk you through everything. You can also buy it online and have it delivered to you without having to visit a showroom. Elon is a dick but Tesla has perfected the car buying experience.
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I ordered a Chevy Bolt in Dec 2022 after hearing good things in /r/boltev about Aundre at Chriswell Chevy in Maryland.
MSRP, no markup (during the height of Bolt markups), no add-ons, everything by email and phone. Just one trip there to drop off the check. Dude even personally delivered the car to the house.
Recommended Aundre to a friend who had the same experience. Boom!
Yeah, it really depends on the dealership (which I will admit sucks). We bought a Hyundai earlier this year at a dealership (at the recommendation of a body who is a mechanic for that brand at a different dealership) in NoVa and overall it was a really great experience.
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I did but I had already done all my research online and knew the exact car I wanted and how much I would pay and I didn’t deviate. All you have to do is put your foot down, be a stone faced asshole, you will break them.
My most recent car purchase went pretty well. I knew exactly what I wanted, I saw the car in stock on their website, and I called them saying I’m picking it up today. It went so fast they didn’t have time to pull any bullshit.
Go to the dealership? Can’t you just order a car online to be delivered to you? A lot of dealers do that here in the UK.
This is, unfortunately, not an option at many dealerships that lease new cars. Sites exist to buy pre-owned but not lease new.
If I do get a new car at some point, I’ll probably use one of those sites.
Just finishing purchasing a car in mexico, pretty much no hidden fee and a reasonably low cost of debt considering the high government interest rate we have.
I think you guys have the problem of having the government in bed with dealerships, they hold way too much power and don’t even try to compete if they can cooperate against the consumer.
…the problem of having the government in bed with dealerships…
I believe the correct phrase would be “having the government in bed with whoever pays the most money”.
I think I am reasonably happy with my civic purchase 11 years ago. I knew what I wanted and a local dealer had it. Price was what was advertised. Sorry no real bad memories of the experience. Maybe I got lucky or maybe I just don’t remember.
Actually, when I bought my Prius, it was a really easy in-and-out once we secured the loan. Maybe because it was used? I don’t know. But the dealer was not pushy at all.
On the other hand, we once had another experience where my wife test-drove a Scion model she was interested in and the salesman talked directly to me the entire time, even when I told him more than once to talk to my wife because I wasn’t buying the car.
When ID.4 came out in the US in 2021, VW had a decent buying experience modeled (presumably) after Tesla and Europe. You could go to a dealership to test drive, then order your desired configuration online for a guaranteed sale price. Sure there were some glitches and it took awhile for them to deliver, but fundamentally it was a great buying experience for me. We went to pick up the car, the dealer only tried minimally to upsell warranties, and we were out the door in 30 minutes. Of course, we can’t have nice things so VW is back to the old “dealership fucks with you” model now.
For all the shit that the company has done, Tesla’s refusal to sell through stealerships and setting a precedent for direct-to-consumer auto sales almost makes up for everything in my eyes.
Interesting. CleanTechnica just posted a very similar article yesterday.
“Many GM dealers have elected to take a buyout from the company rather than make the switch. Some Ford dealers are suing to prevent its electric car mandates from taking effect.”
so it’s not merely laziness or ignorance of individual people - this is choosing not to sell EVs at management/ownership level.
I don’t understand anyone who will listen to a salesman versus doing even 10 minutes research. We have the internet and this is the second biggest personal purchase for most people. Why are you just rolling into a dealership like an idiot with no knowledge about vehicles at all?
Just wait. Don’t be in a hurry.
Prices will come down, products will improve.
Don’t rush to buy something new just to fit in.
Really? Now is the time where the cars are actually worthwhile. Yes, tech will always get better, but if it makes sense for you, go ahead!
Both are true
If you need a new car, waiting is often not an option.
Of course they are. They lose service and part revenue every time someone switches to emob.
This isn’t even the full news article. The actual news article is on Washington Post, and they charge a subscription fee. Your post fucking sucks, OP
As I explained elsewhere, people don’t like paywalls, so I posted this one. Chill out dude
