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alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

Tanzania confirms student abducted by Hamas is dead

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Tanzania confirms student abducted by Hamas is dead

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Tanzania confirms student abducted by Hamas is dead - I24NEWS
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'It's with great sadness we confirm the death of Clemence Felix Mtenga,' official statement said, offering no further details
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  • Stamau123@lemmy.world
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    The sheer hospitality and kindness of the kidnappers was just too much for his little heart.

    Hopefully he shook their hand and thanked them for the excellent hospitality on the way out

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      It must be everyone’s dream to have Hamas as their government. There is nothing more a human could want!

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      From all the reports I’ve seen they were treated nicely, given the same food as the guards and the ones in critical condition were released. They can’t really help Israel killing hostages in airstrikes.

      Edit: Rather than downvote read an actual account from one of the released hostages https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/24/middleeast/israel-hostages-freed-lifshitz-cooper-intl-hnk/index.html

      She says she was beaten during the actual kidnapping, but after that the treatment was generous, with the same food as the guards and access to doctors and femenine hygiene products.

      • anteaters@feddit.de
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        They can’t really help Israel killing hostages in airstrikes.

        How about not fucking kidnapping people and taking them hostage? “Oh we can’t help if people die while we keep them imprisoned in our hospital fortress while we keep shooting thousands of rockets at Israel.” Fucking ridiculous

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          I’m not defending their actions, but under their circumstances it isn’t surprising they behaved how they did.

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            I’m not defending their actions, but under their circumstances it isn’t surprising Israel behaves how they do.

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              It’s almost as if it’s a cycle of violence. Maybe both parties could make some progress towards peace if they’d just stop killing each other’s children.

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                Yup. Alternatively build a giant wall to separate them so they cannot hurt each other for a few generations and then try again.

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            Then there’s a “fuck around and find out” kinda thing happening, no?

            Israel shouldn’t stop until every member of Hamas and Hezbollah are dead. The people of Iran and Palestine would do well to put them in the crosshairs.

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          I too think killing babies is justified

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            You just can’t hold Hamas accountable, it’s all Israel’s fault for using force. Somehow it’s not Hamas’ fault for committing the act of terrorism and war crimes that lead to this situation in the first place. It’s like blaming someone for shooting a home invader who planned to rape and kill your family. It’s not the homeowners fault they had to shoot them, it’s the rapist/murderer’s fault for being there.

            That being said Israel’s government is just as violent and bloodthirsty as radical islam, they’re just supported by the West due to Zionism and the idea that “might makes right” means the Israelis are able to commit any atrocity and get away with it because they’re “gods chosen people.”

            What bullshit, fuck the both of them. Abrahamic religions have been holding humanity back for thousands of years.

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              Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the only way

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          lmfao why did they attack

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            Why did they murder, rape, and kidnap? Because they’re terrorists. That’s what terrorists do.

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              So it has nothing to do with the thousands of Palestinians held as political prisoners, the hundreds that Israel had murdered just this year prior to October 7th, or the well-documented and internationally condemned acceleration of illegal settlement creation and expansion? They just hate Israel’s freedom? Is that it?

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                Israel is a perfect country and can do nothing wrong!

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        The remaining hostages include Lifshitz and Cooper’s husbands, Oded Lifshitz, 83, and Amiram Cooper, 85.

        I, too, would have only the best to say about my kidnappers if they still hold my husband hostage. How fucking naive and stupid can one be?

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        There is literally videos of a hostage missing an arm and there is evidence that an execution of a hostage happened inside that hospital now. Jesus your kind are lost and delusional.

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          Could you share a link? I was going by the news I’ve seen.

          You call me delusional but I’m the only one to link actual evidence.

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            Of course.

            https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/family-buries-israeli-conscript-hostage-vows-never-forgive-2023-11-17/

            19 year old hostage that Hamas claims was killed by airstrikes was found and pathology showed that Hamas executed her according to the IDF today.

            https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-noa-marciano-was-murdered-by-hamas-in-shifa-not-killed-by-israeli-airstrike/

            As for the hostage missing an arm it is from early on. Hamas blew his arm off before taking him

            https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/shocking-video-shows-american-israeli-hostage-captured-by-hamas-loses-his-hand-in-grenade-attack-101698190434457.html

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              The Reuters link mention no such claims, only that Hamas claimed it was due to an air strike.

              The second link only has claims from the IDF, which still says she was initially wounded by an Israeli air strike before being murdered.

              The third link mentions the hand loss by grenade yes, but they s was during the initial attack and capture, not while they were kept as hostages.

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                https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17yzkgv/armed_hamas_fighters_escape_into_rantisi_hospital/

                Btw hamas is using suicide bombers on the hospital now

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                Well ya, the Reuters link was from the initial recovery of the body 3 days ago. The pathology was only released hours before I commented. The evidence being not only being the pathology report but also the proximity to the hospital as well as the other hostage body recovered too. Hamas showed video of Noa clearly dead days ago in a nondisclosed location claiming the idf did it yet her body was found right next to the hospital.

                https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-says-55-metre-fortified-tunnel-found-under-gazas-shifa-hospital-2023-11-19/

                Reuters did make a new article later apparently so I added it here. Still claims of the IDF but im way more willing to believe them than Hamas right now.

                • Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml
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                  This is still just Israel says with no third party confirmation.

      • dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Your browser does not support playing HTML5 video. You can download a copy of the video file instead.

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