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haxor@derp.fooMB to Hacker News@derp.fooEnglish · 1 year ago

Signal Facing Collapse After CIA Cuts Funding

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Signal Facing Collapse After CIA Cuts Funding

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haxor@derp.fooMB to Hacker News@derp.fooEnglish · 1 year ago
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On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.

There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.

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  • sudoshakes@reddthat.com
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    Opinion letter.

    None of the accusations in the title can be substantiated, more than a dozen other apps and technologies are backed by the same organization the article mentions funds part of a signal’s budget.

    Assertions that TOR has a governmental back door, that the CIA wants people to use Signal, are not substantiated, and the article states at the same time that there are fears the anonymity of Signal threatens western governments. Can’t have it both ways.

    The only definitive thing this article can prove or cite is where some OTF funding goes, which was publicly disclosed since it’s inception. It reads like a /r/superstonk GME reeeeeee post equivalent for communication security by a ti foil hat.

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      It seems intentional, the author writes for The Grayzone

      More discussion on this crosspost: https://lemmy.ca/post/10616208

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    Allow us to self host and federate. Take it to the fediverse and we’ll fund the servers.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Matrix has entered the chat

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        Is matrix as full featured as signal? I trust signal regarding encryption. Should/ can I trust Matrix the same way>?

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          Yes, encryption is it’s core concept. It’s why it’s actually so less user friendly in many aspects

    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      signal used to just be an encryption layer over SMS. it was awesome, you just had to verify keys in a second channel when starting to message someone new.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone?wprov=sfla1

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      The author is part this, if anyone is confused.

      They have a pretty pro-kremlin stance and lots of fringe ideals.

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    What is the source for the claim of US intelligence funding?

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      Not being sarcastic, did you read the article?

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        Yes I did. Did I miss it?

        • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world
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          Yeah they actually have a few things cited via hyperlink, try in browser

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    That guy looks like the child of Linus from LTT and Ken Griffin.

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    well, one more thing the USA helped make worse

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