• diyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    24·
    2 years ago

    Only real way to get rid of this culture is to ban it to start.

    A ban would be a bit extreme. Is tipping banned anywhere?

    For me, the fix is to establish a fixed tip like some parts of Europe used to have. E.g. $1—2 per person for good service regardless of bill. This would accomplish two things:

    • The tip cannot be an income supplement (thus wages increase if the resto wants to have staff)
    • There is still a quality control signal in place

    Tipping isn’t bad. Being underpaid is bad. If we as consumers want to add a little more for good service, I don’t see a problem.

    The two are at odds with each other; that’s the problem.

    • deejay4am@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1120·
      2 years ago

      I think in this case, “banned” is referring to “paying workers below minimum hourly wage because they’re expected to make up the difference by convincing our patrons to generously donate +20% of their dinner bill”, not “citizens will be fined/incarcerated if they give someone money of their own free will”

      • diyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        23·
        2 years ago

        That would make sense, but then why did they follow that with “Workers need to demand living wages at the same time as ban comes into effect”?

        • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          Because it logically follows. If the businesses have to stop relying on customers to pay their employees what they are worth. Someone should have to pay their employees a valid living wage. And that logically would be the company.