Just a little rant. When I first visited Lemmy Sites a couple of months ago it felt empty. Besides the really mainstream community pretty much everything else just felt empty.
Meanwhile though traffic has increased a lot and I feel well entertained by the traffic in c/hfy c/noncredibledefence c/keepwriting c/worldbuilding and so on. It is certainly less than Reddit but often quality is substancially higher and is “enough” to keep me entertained.
Also I like that you can actually post something without running into a bazillion deletes, bans and moderator shitshat because your post was two words to short, not NCD enough and so on.
Sure, the C64 community on Lemmy is laughable. So is the ARMA community. I still use REddit for that. Also I often check up stuff on r/hfy and r/NCD but since one week I have been prefering Lemmy for that.
Also my longer posts don’t get eaten up any more. God, three weeks ago most posts with 3k an more just got lost without feed back. Nowadays I have even manges posts around 20k without breaking them up. Though the editor is still lacking for longer posts. On Reddit I can copy-paste pretty much anything from Libreoffice into Reddits Editor (which is also pretty lacking but differently lacking). On Lemmy I have to run most text through a little perl script to get them even using correct line breaks perl -pe ‘s/\n/\n\n/’ and different sizes for Headlines are much to few to select from.
Not perfect, not even very good but definitely promising.
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Its getting there, and there is some entertaining content on here (comments and posts). But I think we are still missing the super high end responses. No matter what the topic, one or two people would jump on and have deep specialised knowledge of the field - be it naming an insect from a blurry image or commenting on a geopolitical situation. I still see lots of posts that generate nothing more than “huh” or “wow” type comments.
When that starts appearing more broadly, I think the quality here is going to take another leap.
I think that’ll only really start to happen once you start getting more of the general population on here.
Reddit always had a reputation for being dominated by techy people, that is significantly more so the case here.
Signing up for Lemmy, even knowing where to start is a bigger leap than it is over there. Personally I’m hoping third party apps will be able to help with that by offering some kind of setup wizard with easy options of suggested instances to join.
Lol yeah, you guy’s should have been here 2y ago, this place is jumping now!
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I certainly hate the people here a lot less. I like how it isn’t the same garbage comments on every post where they hyper analyze videos frame by frame just to call things fake.
I love how people have different opinions and value different things. Personally I so far find Lemmy very very very much not as entertaining as Reddit. The lack of comments in particular makes it way less enjoyable imho. But hopefully it’ll grow.
I have way more fun on Lemmy. I do need some of the more esoteric an vast archived content from reddit from time to time. For that I just google reddit and no longer sign in. Fedi will get there soon enough though.
Maybe someone here already said this but if you find a community with not a lot of traffic here, make sure to post in it. Others might go looking for it and find nothing, just like you did. Perpetual cycle of I see nothing, I leave. If someone’s active, maybe someone else will be active with you. And then two turns to four to 8 and so on. Even if it feels like you’re screaming into the void, keep screaming. The void is infinite and someone’s bound to hear you eventually.
To add on that, I’m trying to figure out how people can easily find those small volume niche communities, and it seems like it’s a hassle.
So I set up a community on my server : https://lemmy.mindoki.com/c/[email protected]
Post your small community there, and I’ll have a user sub to it.
Why?
Because if at least 1 user on a server subs to a community (on another server) then that community will show up when filtering with All (All + new should show even small posts, at least sometimes).
If this is a good idea, maybe everyone running a small (read: low volume) server could do this to really get Federation going!
Cheers
Loulou / Valmond @ lemmy.mindoki.com
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]
Good bot!
I’ll fix it.
I think community consolidation/aggregation is something that might want to be looked at. It’s possible to have a gardening community on multiple servers with different content. This will confuse people. So having a way to merge posts from two communities into a bigger community per server may be a good idea. So if you set up gardening communities on two servers you can choose to have posts show for each of them in your community. And making this a server or community setting still gives the ability to either have this or not have this if the communities are truly supposed to be separate. This would also give some kind of redundancy where the original community server can go offline but multiple different servers can still exchange messages that eventually make it back to the main community. Truly decentralized.
I have to disagree. Consolidation seems almost never to improved anything. Take Reddit, for example. I once found a sub called HikingAndCamping. Since I’m a hiker, I looked it over. The top mod only allowed discussions of hiking and camping on Mt Everest (or some equally nonsensical narrow topic). Since I actually wanted to discuss hiking and camping generally, I tried to create CampingAndHiking as a more accessible community. But that same top mod had already claimed that name as well under an alt. Reddit refused to do anything, but when they notified him that I had requested the dead sub (no posts and the alt hadn’t logged in for years), he jumped in and created a single “Go away” post. Then he sent me a private message to the effect of “I’m squatting to keep traffic flowing to my other sub. You want to talk about hiking and camping in general? Sucks to be you.”
Here, I’d just go to another instance and create the c/ that we wanted and move along. That’s part of the beauty of federation. Users can then join the one(s) that appeal to them and everyone gets to have their community.
The way I was thinking you could still go to the original community and skip the aggregated one. So you could have c/gardening and c/flowers, but also c/backyard which could combine the two. You could still go to either one, but for easier discoverability you could create aggregators or include an aggregator in your community, and do this cross server. So if you have two very popular and overlapping communities you could combine them easier. Could also be a client feature I suppose. But right now you’d have to manually hunt for the possibly dispersed communities yourself. Alternatively I guess there is an argument for smaller communities being better which I do agree with. It was just a not very thought through idea :) Or you could have community redirects. So c/technology on lemmy.world could decide to seamlessly redirect to c/technology on Lemmy.ml if wanted. Edit: although the more I think about this the more it sounds like more trouble than it’s worth.
Now I get the idea. It’s not a bad one, but it may very well be a lot of trouble to implement. Maybe the cross-instance community lists could help. It seems like, most of the time, related communities pop up fairly quickly or show up in the initial search.
My new shiny missis sharer has been created, it’s me!
Give me your smallest subs and I’ll federate them!
Not to sound like a jerk but I don’t understand what most people expected. All new sites start slow. Facebook was slow at the beginning. Reddit too. It’s not like they had millions of users and subs day one. We have the responsibility to build up this community. We want a site like Reddit but without the u/spez crap. So we better start building it up and complain less. Criticism is ok but saying “it’s slower than Reddit” is kinda useless and obvious.
Reddit got a burst of users when digg did stupid shit. Now Reddit’s doing stupid shit and…
Reddit’s burst of users from digg though was on top of an established site with a reasonable userbase. How many people were using lemmy before spez decided that Twitter was a role model instead of a cautionary tale?
I don’t think so. I remember there were hundreds of upvotes when I first moved. It was a big thread if it had 1k upvotes. In seeing that on lemmy now.
Those numbers didn’t dramatically change after the Digg migration though. The internet archive has copies of reddit’s front page both before and after Digg’s explosion and they don’t show dramatically different numbers of votes on the top posts. Please don’t mistake me for saying that no one actually moved from Digg to reddit, I’m just saying that reddit had an established and significant userbase even before Digg fucked around and found out. I don’t think the same is quite true for lemmy.
Ya and I’d say lemmy has a significant user base too prior to Reddit. Either way I see more on lemmy now than I ever have. I’ve used it in the past for a while and it’s night and day better now, and I attribute that to Reddit imploding
Reddit was also like Lemmy is now when it first started.
Yeah no one remembers the memes about Reddit servers?
Also it’s definitely not slower than Reddit. Reddit was tiny for a couple of years. I’m not certain, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we already have more users than Reddit did before the Digg/Slashdot migrations, and those took a few years.
Woah now hold on there mate, this is the internet, you can’t go making sense, it’s just not the done thing!
Lemmy just needs to stop talking about itself so much. The only reason I still use Reddit is because I find fresher and more varied content there. Lemmy users need to provide more content than just the fact that they are on Lemmy.
Lol it’s a new community. I actually find it interesting to see other people’s opinions about it. I don’t mind seeing every 15th post being about Lemmy itself. That won’t last for more than a few months at most…
I hope so. I find some excellent content here but I still need to sift through tons of Lemmy circlejerk to find it.
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Same thing on mastodon, most posts are about Twitter and how they hate it. Really annoying and not the reason I want to use the service
The best thing people who want Lemmy to succeed can do is post original, non-meta content to communities.
Of course [email protected] is inherently meta.
I am the content!
i disagree. Lemmy is quickly getting better.
I disagree. Lemmy has made a big jump and now is getting slowly better.
I disagree. Lemmy better quick now slowly is.
Lemmy feels a lot like hackernews
With a bit less bigotry, but otherwise yes.
hackernews is bigoted? Well that’s news. I had no idea.
Yeah, but it’s a really weird libertarian thing where everybody feels like they’re an expert in their field and also everyone else’s. It’s a lot more fun to have in my RSS feeds since I realized that.
HN is to other forums what mathematicians are too the rest of science
That’s giving them a biiit too much credit. More like,
HN is to other forums what annoying 14 year olds h4cker script-kiddies are to computer scientists.
More fun here in my opinion. The HN discussions are very dry.
And hostile ☹️
I reckon after all is said and done, the biggest issue I had with Reddit is that people felt they had to be heard. Like, we just needed to know that you also thought that certain thing (“came here to say this”) or that you are morally superior to everyone else (“oh but I don’t do it that way OP”). It’s 90% of the reason the content on Reddit had deteriorated, because people crave the attention, and thus the imaginary number going up.
Now I’m not saying Lemmy is different. In fact, I fully expect it to go the same way. But right now, there are far fewer people here who just have to give their opinion (I see the irony), and therefore less shit to wade through to get to actually good content.
As an example, look at the top comment on any default sub post on Reddit. It will have heaps and heaps of replies that are just valueless crap. This is what makes Reddit seem “faster” than Lemmy. The reality is that most of it is fluff, most of it is irrelevant to you.
This is what I wanted to say which is why I came here! Plz upvote me?
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I agree with your agreement therefore I am ENTITLED to upvotes
As is customary, the third in line to continue the “joke” gets the downvotes. Not funny by the third to around.
As I see it now, the lemmy spirits have seen fit to have some sort of geometric score progression
Can’t even view this screenshot on desktop. Too small. Lemmy needs work still.
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I started up [email protected] and it’s basically just me posting. Not really much traction but who knows, maybe it’ll get going.
Same here with [email protected] :-)
If you like nosleep, check out [email protected] that I made a while back.
I just didn’t have much energy to write recently, but I’m planning on getting back to it, so any contribution there is welcome.
Omg its Margot Robbie from Oppenheimer
That’s Academy Award nominated esteemed character actress Margot Robbie (also occasional spooky story writer) to you!
I don’t understand the “slowly” part at all. I joined Lemmy about a month ago when Reddit third party apps went dark. Lemmy was largely a ghost town then, with most of the relatively mainstream communities I sought out having newest posts that were days or even weeks old. That desolation was gone after the first few days, with a ton more engagement from others who migrated over and a steady stream of new content. The communities I frequent have grown by leaps and bounds since then. “Slow” isn’t a word I’d use to describe Lemmy’s growth.
It started to slow down, or at least in my instance. People still post and people from another instance visit frequently, but the hype seems to already slow down. I don’t mind though, i don’t think any instance can take the heavy load, it will kill lemmy faster if the instance constantly facing down time.
It was bound to happen eventually; these migrations happen in waves, after all. Not to mention, a solid chunk of former Reddit users just stopped using social media entirely.
Since the spike in content that came with the Reddit migration, I feel like things have slowed down. Maybe I’m wrong, I don’t have any stats to back that up.
Maybe “plateau’d” is a better phrase. There has been growth since the Reddit migration, but it has decreased since the spike. Not that that’s a bad thing
I wouldn’t say plateaued. Decreased. A number of the communities that I subscribe to seem to have fewer daily posts than they did a few weeks ago.
I stopped posting to Reddit because frankly it felt like throwing a pebble into the ocean.
I love the smaller approach here
My posts will get no engagement, negative engagement, and very rarely do I get upvotes. Here in lemmy, there’s lots of quality posts and nice people who engage with my posts.
I’m regularly seeing hundreds of comments on posts now and only a month ago it was rare to see a dozen comments on a post. I really don’t need more engagement on a post, that’s plenty. Lemmy still needs more users to sustain more niche communities, but in the places that people are it’s already great.
As of this last month, Lemmy is my new “go to” for scrolling social media. My Reddit usage is probably 20% or less of what it used to be.
A part of this was Voyager’s Progressive Web App (https://vger.app), it made me feel right at home after Apollo shut down.
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reddit exists in birdbox universe and went outside and took its blindfold off
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Is anyone else having trouble with the “show context” button? When someone replies to you, it only shows what they said. When you click “show context”, it… only shows what they said. The only way to see what you said is to copy their reply and “show rest of comments” and then search for it - that is if it isn’t on an instance that hides replies after the second level.
Yeeeeeeah. I feel like it used to work, and then something changed lately and it’s super unreliable. Or rather it never works anymore
Ironically it is now working for this comment.
Does it not depend on the app?
I’m on jerboa and linking to the parent of a reply shows me the context, but the thread indenting is reversed - instead of replies being indented to the right, all the parents are successively indented to the left instead.
Little bugs here and there, but I’m an optimist so I think it will get ironed out in time.
I felt like it was working briefly on my instance and now it’s not again…
Just checked the issues and I don’t see anything about context for the latest version. I think the devs are unaware.
Experiencing the same, hope someone reports it.
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