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I haven’t even bought a 5G phone yet. My carrier keeps threatening to cut 4G coverage in various areas, and has already axed 3G entirely, rendering large swathes of otherwise perfectly functional devices useless. So far my 4G Moto Z still works. For now.
At this point my conspiracy opinion that the constant “generation” changes are mostly to just force people to buy/lease new phones and devices. Even pokey old 4G has always been more than fast enough for all of my mobile internet activities. Hell, even 3G was.
I have no less than four otherwise flawlessly functional phones in a desk drawer that just won’t work with my cell carrier because they’ve either turned off 3G or discontinued the specific 4G bands those devices need.
I live in a medium size city with extensive Verizon coverage. 5g here is still dogshit. It’s always slower than LTE and even though towers are everywhere, my phone is constantly switching back and forth.
I was forced to upgrade since i was still rocking a 3g phone and my area switched to 5g. The phone company gave me a free Pixel6 since it wasnt my choice to upgrade. Maybe if you hold out long enough you’ll just get a free upgrade. Though it was a double edge sword, since they tried to up my monthly bill since i was “upgraded” to “premium data”. I had to fight that and still ended up paying a few bucks more than previously, but better than what they tried to charge me.
As a person living in a densely populated city of London, I don’t want 6G, I need 10G and I need it yesterday. There’s no conspiracy, there’s an obvious and objective reality.
5G was made for your usecase…
5G is not enough. It was too late to arrive. And I can’t imagine how bad it is in cities in Asia, where density is even higher.
No, i mean, it was made to better handle 100s of concurrent streams to the same tower.
I know, but it’s not enough these days.
Most want ubiquitous and affordable/cheap mobile internet without the hassle of signing contracts. Moving tech tiers past 4G isn’t relevant for consumers as of now.
Said the Phone/ISPs top earning guys while looking at their bank accounts extracts.
I need some stocks for 6g developing/manufacturing corps.
Samsung probably
Don’t ask me no clue 😅
"This is an important research question because we can see mobile traffic going up over the next decade by a factor of 10 or even a factor of 20. "
Wtf are they going to do with that? Always-on video from wireless devices everywhere? Holographic movies on every web page? It sounds terrible. I remember having to make phone calls for basic communication. These days you send a text or email, except now and then you want the higher bandwidth of a voice call. That is, we have been moving toward LESS bandwidth rather than more.
Whatever is imagined being done with all the new bandwidth can’t be good.
Your personal usage does not align with the majority. Look at tiktok, it’s social media based around endless video files. It’s not an occasional text or email, it’s hundreds of videos that your constantly scrolling through.
The carriers love to brag about high capacity and fast speeds but they’re still unwilling to deliver the bandwidth. They’re all advertising “unlimited” data but if you scroll TikTok for a while they’ll block your line for “excessive” data usage or throttle you down to 256kb/s.
I’ve only had this happen when using my phone as a hotspot
OK, good point. Are people using mobile data for that? Yes you’re right I’m not on social media etc. Also I’m on a super cheap mobile plan with enough monthly data to check email and look at some occasional web pages, but if I want to watch a video I almost always use home internet for that. I guess if this super high bandwidth mobile stuff kills Comcast though, some good will have come out of it. The Register article talks mostly about IoT and “AI/ML” rather than social media though.
Is 5g mobile data cheaper for the end user than 4g in practice? The sticker prices and advertised data caps for monthly plans look to me to be about the same as before, but maybe more of the data cap is usable in practice.
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The real problem is that people are too lazy to read. Endless video, who is tiktok targeted to? This is bad news for attention spans and your ability to work. Just try to look at how much information you can retain from a video compared to a paragraph of text.
They’re making the data faster, but most plans are still limited to something ridiculous like 20G/month. What’s the point of being able to stream 4K video or whatever if that’s going to burn through your data allowance in seconds?
A huge part of newer mobile network generations is the increased capacity. Faster speeds is effectively the same as more capacity in the towers.
This means that companies could actually afford to start offering unlimited data caps, there just has to be the push to do so. But I do genuinely believe that within a decade there will be no more datacaps for mobile data in cities, at least (or at least plenty of plans with unlimited and no throttling). Well, idk about the US considering you got data caps on broadband, but, I’m sure Europe will get it.
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I guess it’s for streaming?
I’m not into any of that livestream stuff and I cannot believe that people stream their lives and other people want to watch it.
Always-on video from wireless devices everywhere?
They can’t even give me more than 20GB a month without forking over more than I pay for my home internet, never happening in my lifetime.
And nobody will ever need more than 640K of memory, so the fact that even your cell phone carries vastly more than that must mean you yourself are up to no good, right?
Even if you’re not dealing with a constant video stream, the power of the internet lies in moving vast amounts of data around. Yeah a lot of that information is based of corporate privacy invasion, but you also have things like medical databases or performing jobs remotely. I had gigabit routers in my home at a time when 10/100 routers were still typically used even in businesses. If you have a capability, someone will find a way to make use of it and new innovations will pop up that we hadn’t even considered before. Imagine where we would be at if Xerox hadn’t invented the mouse and GUI desktop years before personal home computers were even available.
Just make a nationwide 10gb fiber optic service it’s like 5 times cheaper.
Don’t you watch HDR movies in 4K on the go? Ok, not 4K, but people stream a lot of HD videos all the time. As well as stream from their phone cameras to Facebook and Twitch. Another issue is that high density cities have way too many people trying to do all this high bandwidth stuff at once.
And video calls. Don’t forget video calls.
How much extra do I have to pay to not be in video calls? I almost never watch videos while mobile but I guess some people do. I doubt if I could tell the difference between SD and HD on a phone screen though.
If you personally don’t do something it doesn’t mean that the majority of the population is like you. Worldwide traffic use average is 20GB per person. What’s even more interesting, is that US number is lower than average in Europe, the Middle East and East Asia. And guess what? More than half of the world’s population lives in Europe, the Middle East and East Asia. So if you live in US, it’s not just you, but also people around you who are not representative of mobile internet use.
Why don’t we just skip 6G and just go straight to 7G
If they’re going to skip anything, it’s going to be 8… Because 7, 8, 9!
Nah dude… That’s why they skipped 9 because 7 ate it. 9 was never a viable option
I mean, you might have a point there.
If seven ate nine, but you skip eight, it’s all OK! Seven nine.
But… But… Seven ate nine.
You ate eight!
Seven nine!
Waaaahhh!
They’ll skip 9 as that seems to be Kryptonite to tech. Both Microsoft and Apple decided to skip straight from 8 to 10 with Windows and iPhone respectively.
Silicon Valley really wants to make XR a thing.
Current tech does not need 5G and the shit that they think will need 6G is just needless XR systems that will be steaming an unjustifiable amount of data from the “cloud”.
The enshittification continues. Happy 2024 folks
When I had a Pixel 6, there was a bug that caused awful battery drain when on 5G, so I changed the preferred network setting to LTE for like a month while waiting for them to fix the issue.
It had NO effect on my regular use at all. Running speed tests showed that my max download speed was significantly slower while using LTE, but that’s obviously not indicative of real world usage. If there was any difference between LTE and 5G in terms of page loading, media streaming, etc during regular daily activities, it wasn’t perceptible.
I honestly don’t think I’d notice a real world difference between 4G and H+ in most scenarios except for, maybe, video. I never understood the hype for 5G, especially considering the horrendous frequency limitations that imply line of sight AND very small coverage radii.
We Moroccans don’t even have 5G countrywide yet, and yet you guys are already prepping for 6G? At least wait for everyone to catch up.
No, most of us don’t have 5G.
Att for instance has been telling their custumers for.2 years they were 5G but if you download a network scanner you will discover that 4G LTE is the Max that most Americans outside financial hubs have gotten.
If this doesn’t fit into the definition of “scam”, then idk what does.
If we did that, nothing new would ever happen. A lot of third world nations have yet to industrialize ffs
Oh.
With 4G covering all my needs flawlessly, idk if I’d need a new gen. With a laptop, probably, but a smartphone, or even tablet? Ping across the globe is a bigger offender than speeds. Having a 2-3 sec delay when calling anyone, even though having a smooth detailed picture, is more annoying than having a 480p and an instant response. Cloud gaming suffers from it too. But that’s on ISPs, international lines, and that’s harder to change than introducing the 6G in phones and local towers.
I can hear the conspiracies already!
WE DIDN’T NEED 5G
Does this mean we can do proper voice over 4G already? Last time I heard it was just for the selected phone models with specific software.
If the carriers keep offering 10GB per month or “unlimited” plans, why I would want to spend the whole big amount in 5 seconds?
I didn’t see the point there.
From my humble POV they just want to advertise and marketing about they being the first ones in having 6G while the thing they should do it’s INCREASE THE FUCKING DATA AMOUNT, PEOPLE(ME) NEED MORE DATA NOT SPEED TO SPEND THEIR DATA IN 5 SECONDS. DUMB MFS.
Every generation boosts capacity. Speed increase is just a side effect which is easy to market. 5G didn’t bring enough capacity as its roll out was too late. 6G is too late now as well. We need something like 10G and we need it yesterday.
Just skip to 10G already.
GTA V has 9G LMAO
My wireless technology goes up to 11G
That’s just 10G but the 10 is crossed out
Yeah because 11G is higher than 10G
I’m still waiting for 5G to revolutionize everything like every carrier promised it would.
Where was 5g ?
