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    I miss this type of shit from early ufc days… Like they used to just put muy Thai vs karate masters and it was interesting as hell to see. I get why it happened but now it’s all mma vs mma… Not as fun imo.

    Edit- I’m remembering seeing a few sumo dudes too. I’m thinking this was the 90s

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      Wasn’t there a fight between an american boxer and a japanese sumo wrestler? and it was just the most epic fucking thing I’d ever witnessed. now it’s all domestic abusers with a BJJ hobby

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      1211 months ago

      Yeah I remember as a teenager I rented VHS of UFC 4, 5, 6 and 7 and it was the best thing I ever watched. I was trying to find the first 3, but it was hard to do in early 90s

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        611 months ago

        Pretty sure they are free on YouTube. This was a Pride event though, Melvin Manhoef vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama.

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    3311 months ago

    Looks at first the boxer had the judo(ist?), but once the judo(ist?) finally got grappling he took him down! I was surprised he won!

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      3111 months ago

      All fights end up on the ground. Judo excels at getting them there faster and BJJ at ending it once horizontal.

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      Yea judoka had no striking game and boxer had no wrestling game. Under these conditions the grappler could just wait out the striker until catching a grapple, then win. This is why the Gracie family pushed UFC in the 90s, because karate-and-boxing-obsessed US audiences were constantly surprised by these matches, and it led to more people signing up for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu!

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        211 months ago

        I don’t know much, but “just wait out the striker” is a skill too, no? The judoka seemed good at feinting and dodging punches, which isn’t something you practice in judo.

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          Yea that wasn’t meant to downplay the skill required to hang. But relatively speaking, defending with a goal to clinch up takes a ton less effort and risk than pursuing an offensive striking game.

          Looking from the other direction, it is incredibly difficult to actually knock someone out who is only defending and waiting to get close to you.

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      11 months ago

      Things literally turned around at the halfway mark where the boxer attempted to throw the judoka and he somehow ends up on top of him.

      Motherfucker pulled a UNO reverse card lol

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    Yeah any of these fighting styles without a “fighting on the floor” component just lose once the other guy brings them on the floor.