Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey is trying a unique strategy to get remote workers to return downtown: insulting them.

“I don’t know if you saw this study the other day,” Frey told an audience of 1,000 at Minneapolis Downtown Council’s annual meeting on Wednesday. “What this study clearly showed … is that when people who have the ability to come downtown to an office don’t — when they stay home sitting on their couch, with their nasty cat blanket, diddling on their laptop — if they do that for a few months, you become a loser!”

The comment was a “complete joke” and the study was made-up, the Minneapolis mayor’s office told Fortune, but there are serious facts to back up Frey’s worry about the impact of remote work on Minneapolis’ downtown economy.

  • DigitalTraveler42
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    The comment was a “complete joke” and the study was made-up, the Minneapolis mayor’s office told Fortune

    Ah yes the typical “what? It was just a joke, why’s everyone mad at me?” reaction to saying something only an asshole would say, fuck this guy. So sorry rich people are going to make less money off of their real estate investments, boo fucking hoo, how about adapting to technological and cultural changes better? 🤷‍♂️

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      Disclosure: I work from home and enjoy it immensely. I never want to work in an office again.

      So sorry rich people are going to make less money off of their real estate investments, boo fucking hoo, how about adapting to technological and cultural changes better?

      There is that, and some rich people need to be boiled in their own pudding. But this affects all downtown businesses, even mom and pop shops. People will just flee like urban flight did when people went to the suburbs. What’s left? I hear about “well, turn office buildings into residential space,” but the logistics of that with fire codes, building codes, and urban planning are not drop in replacements. They can be done, but at great cost.

      We’re looking at an urban decay beyond what we’ve planned for. Minneapolis is terrified to become another Detroit or Gary Indiana.

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        It doesn’t have to all be bad. If the city could get the head out of their ass, they could sort out the codes and get it done. Let people who work downtown live downtown. Shrink the driving and parking infrastructure, turn it into a walkable, bikeable area.

        Rents/leases could go way down for the mom and pop shops that can survive in the new design.

        Other businesses can move further out where the people are, so the suburbs can become more walkable.

        If we made the focus on reducing waste, and making things easy for everyone, rather than how to make rich people richer, theres lots of solutions.

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          It was obvious 30 years ago downtowns were in trouble because businesses ere moving to suburbs. They still haven’t made serious effort to change the root causes of that.

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              typing on my phone. I have never found a good keyboard for mobile. I turned autocorrect off long ago as it too often was changing what I wrote to something that was completely the opposite, at least without it you know I didn’t mean that can can figure it out (I hope). I’m using thumb-key which overall I like, but there are still issues with it.

              I have dysgraphia which means writing is already more difficult for me than most, combine that will small text boxes and random hitting of something I didn’t mean…

              I’m on a real computer now so I was able to run spellcheck and get at least the most obvious mistakes fixed.

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          In addition, increase housing density by removing single family only zoning and adding more missing middle and affordable housing. Make the city a place people want to live (and can afford to live) rather than just a place people commute in and out from in their noisy, polluting cars.

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          Oh no, we might not need heavily built-up downtown centers any more. But we need to need them! For some reason.

      • archomrade [he/him]
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        but the logistics of that with fire codes, building codes, and urban planning are not drop in replacements. They can be done, but at great cost.

        Most of the buildings were talking about are made to accommodate stricter codes already. The problem isn’t really at all the cost of retrofitting them, so much as it is the lower rent/sf price they can charge for it.

        Everything else you mentioned is fair, but the only reason people would rather leave urban centers if they don’t need to be there is the cost of living there. No matter how you slice it, the biggest obstacle to dense residential city centers is the established expectation of higher ROI on the space and the over-leveraged building owners who can’t afford to charge less for risk of defaulting on their properties.

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          In the end, it’s about bailing out the rich. They should have diversified their bets away from commercial real estate.

          Covid mashed fast forward, but remote knowledge work was a thing before it. It was a foreseeable risk, even just from guessing normal rich people motivations: once the San Francisco crowd figured out they could cast a bigger net for talent, AND pay lower-cost-of-living city salaries to them, it was going to spread.

    • @[email protected]
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      He went with the “it was just a prank bro” strategy, which has in the last decade been very successful

  • @[email protected]
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    Insulting a key demographic of your constituency in a ranked choice system is an interesting strategy.

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      Yeah but businesses are probably paying him more.

    • @[email protected]
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      This is what happens when your education is CEO-pandering articles on Forbes and Fortune shoving “the workers are the problem and work-from-home is lazy and will kill your business” agenda so they get more views

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      He seems like an OK mayor for the city tbh but shit has gone downhill under him like the George Floyd thing which Domino’d to chaos over time.

      This is probably a cascade from businesses wanting to end their lease on downtown offices, which is due to remote workers, which is why this dude is spazzing. It’s directly affecting the city income, budget, planning, etc. Just pushing it more towards chaos.

      I see the reasons, but instead of putting everything back maybe try to move forward? I’m no city planner so I have no idea what another solution would be. Cheaper business startup costs to increase local markets?

      A city is sort of like a business because there are budgets, income, expenses, etc. When you have no offices being leased, you will, as the city, lose.

      Addition: he said it was a joke. It could’ve been. It could not have been. As I said before, he’s done an OK job. I’d feel inclined to belive it was a joke in poor taste. Perhaps a half joke. Idk man. It’s not super important in the grand scheme.

      https://youtu.be/rFM2Yso7BGY

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        Good god. Thank you for bringing a sane, thoughtful take on the situation.

        A city is sort of like a business because there are budgets, income, expenses, etc. When you have no offices being leased, you will, as the city, lose.

        Yes. There are real monetary issues here and memes aren’t going to change that overnight.

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          And the real monetary issues are that the free market has spoken and the businesses, instead of listening to this Free Market that they worship so much, have instead propped up a failure of a decision for no reason other than they’ve already spent a bunch of money on it.

          If MY business failed because I stuck too hard to a sunk cost fallacy, nobody would give a shit. So why is it a problem here? They should have invested better, or at the very least, seen which way the wind is blowing and adapt appropriately.

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      This is the guy who showed up to a protest for the murder of George Floyd and everyone switched to chanting “Go home Jacob, go home” and “shame”. Dude just sucks.

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    Oh no, my feelings are so hurt … Hearing a politician teach me about work is like hearing a priest teach me about sex with an adult.

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    People just don’t want to spend what little time we have on this earth commuting, paying $10 for a shitty Subway sandwich for lunch, and listening to Elderly Manager Brian talk about his glory days to a captive audience.

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    He sure has a lot of boomer energy for a guy who’s only 42.

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        At least actual boomers have the excuse of being 90% lead for most of their childhood.

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          As an elder millennial I apparently got exposed to healthy doses myself and I refused to turn into one of those entitled twats. My family has strict instructions to put my ass in a home the second I tell them anything remotely resembling “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”. I refuse to be an emotional burden like so many boomers are on their kids/those around them. I would rather die alone in the cheapest home they can find or even on the streets before that happens

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        You’re 100% correct, and it’s kinda sad, really… for so many members of a generation to be so consistently and relentlessly stupid toxic that its name becomes synonymous with “douchebag.” What a fuckin accomplishment.

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    This just in: mayor of Minneapolis is completely out of touch with modern society

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      I think it’s more that he runs Minneapolis.

      If your business model is being a city that has a bunch of office buildings that workers commute into from surrounding suburbs every day, and then one day, people decide that they don’t need to do that commute, kinda dicks up your business model.

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        Definitely the white centrist boomers living around Minneapolis. It was the time when rent control and replacing the police department with a department of public safety was on the ballot. And Frey was against both of those things. I remember talking with some of my elderly in-laws who all live in south Minneapolis. They all voted for him. Plus with ranked choice voting, people had to specifically take him off the ballot in order to win.

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    I guess making his downtown a good place to live and work might take some effort, while insults are free. Good use of economic resources.

    I hope this guy gets stuck in traffic enough that his policies don’t get traction, and someone more capable gets elected next.

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      He probably invested too heavily in real estate. Now, the corporate RIET or REIT (I always forget) aren’t growing to his expectations.

  • @[email protected]
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    Yeah… No. The real losers are the asshats that have to get up, shower, get lunch together, drive to a factory, inhale shit all day, fantasize about unrealistic things like unicorns, homeownership, and retirement, and then drive home.

    Source: Me. Am loser, driving, breathing shit, and all with no cat blanket…

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    Man, if you become a loser in a few months what does that make me since I’ve been fully remote for six years, and more than 50% remote for eleven years.

    Also, here’s the problem as defined by Minneapolis:

    Gen Z prefers laptop diddling and nasty cat blankets to going out

    What does “going out” entail? Visiting a bar and overpaying for drinks in a noisy bar? Overpaying at a restaurant that doesn’t even have plates?

    Gen Z doesn’t have any money. Going out requires money. So unless they’re gonna subsidize meals at restaurants, people will stay home and diddle on their laptops because at least that doesn’t cost money.

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      It’s the same with a lot of us millennial people.

      I graduated into a job market still largely crushed by the dotcom bubble bursting, had my entire life and career path destroyed by the GFC, then another destroyed by covid.

      Let me just spend a third of my monthly food allowance on food I can make better myself to please the downtown economy god, I guess lmfao.

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    Stop man… You had me at cat blanket, no need to say anything else, I will continue from home.