I want to go biking in cities, but from what I’ve read most police departments simply do not give a fuck about stolen bikes. How do I make sure my bike doesn’t get stolen?

  • @[email protected]
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    You can’t prevent bike theft - you can only discourage it.

    • Use multiple locks. Chains are harder to cut than U-locks. Stay away from cable/combination locks.
    • If the lock is a pain to carry around it’s also a pain to break.
    • If possible, place the lock so that it’s in awkward position to cut.
    • Have a bike that’s difficult to sell. Either a cheap and crappy one or make it unique looking.
    • Park it in public and leave it next to a bike that’s easier to steal.
    • Remove the battery if it’s an ebike.
    • @[email protected]
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      1510 months ago

      2 points:

      Use multiple lock types to increase the required angles of attack.

      Keep the locks up off the ground so thieves can’t use the ground for leverage with bolt cutters.

    • @[email protected]
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      Cover/remove any brand name labels. Duct tape and spray paint are ugly. Use them.

      I call it “uglifying”. Maybe it’s luck but I never had my ugly bike stolen. In a sea of attractive bikes, mine stands out like a eyesore. And I always imagine if some one did steal it, it’ll be quick to recover.

  • @[email protected]
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    As someone that biked in Chicago for over a decade… You make your bike harder to steal than other bikes. Very few bike thefts are targeted; they’re largely opportunistic. If it’s a targeted theft, they’re going to get your bike.

    Start by getting a good lock. If you’re riding a bike around that’s more than about $1500, spring for the Kryptonite New York series of locks. I’d say get a chain and a very small shackle, because that gives you the most places to lock your bike. When you lock up, remove your front wheel, and run the chain through your rear wheel and both the rear and front triangle, and through your front wheel. Make sure that what you’re locking to is sturdy, and difficult to move or cut quickly; city bike racks (the steel ones that are set into the concrete) are pretty good. For buildings that have exterior gas and water pipes, those are pretty great too. Take your seat and seat post with you. Get the tiniest, most uncomfortable-looking clipless pedals you can (Crank Bros. Eggbeaters are a good start, I had Speedplay Frogs before they were discontinued), and wear cycling shoes everywhere; as dumb as it sounds, a bike that someone can’t easily ride off on is less likely to get ripped off.

    Don’t leave your bike locked up outside overnight. Don’t leave your bike in a garage, in a fenced-in back yard, or on a back porch. Set up a place inside your house to store your bike (yes, this means that you need a large shower mat to catch the melting snow in the winter). If you commute to work, see if they have a place inside where you can keep your bike during your shirt.

    Declare your bike on your homeowners’ or renters’ insurance, and make sure that you specify replacement value, and exact duplicates rather than equivalents.

    Yes, Kryptonite locks can be picked. The people that can consistently pick the new ones quickly are very unlikely to be ripping off bikes.

    It’s not fool-proof, but I commuted to and from school in the loop, and to and from work in Skokie, and had a grand total of zero thefts across two high-end Cannondales, one mid-level Fuji, and a Specialized StumpJumper Pro in the years that I lived in Chicago.

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    1410 months ago

    Dont leave a bike that is worth stealing, if you mind it being stolen, for daily commutes just get a second hand bike for around 200$ and fix it up, pick up a 50$ kryptonite NY lock and ride stress free.

  • teft
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    I use a Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit lock and chain through my rear wheel and rear triangle with a cable through my front wheel. I live in Medellin, Colombia which is about as theft prone for bikes as NYC is. I’ve never had my bike stolen. I also don’t leave it out at night, only when I’m going into a store or something.

    Edit: Be aware this is a pretty heavy chain and lock but I love my bike and don’t want it stolen so I bought the best one I could find.

    • cooljacob204
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      810 months ago

      I just got back from a trip to Medellin and was surprised how big the bike scene was. Beautiful city.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        I used to live there in 2013 and it felt super safe. How is it these days as I heard some bad bits about it.

        • cooljacob204
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          I felt pretty safe when I was there. I had no issues. I’m a white guy from NYC for some context and I didn’t feel unsafe at all. I was in El Poblado for the most part.

          I visited to meet a few of my World of Warcraft guild mates in person and eat a ton of Colombian food. So probably not your typical tourist experience in Medellin.

          Only wish my Spanish was better… I don’t speak much and that was a challenge.

          • @[email protected]
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            Yeah it forced me to buck up and learn a bit, which I maintain to this day. Poblado has always been pretty safe from what I remember; I was down in Envigado and really got along with that place, what will it being it’s open little town.

  • @[email protected]
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    I use a hardened steel chain and a hardened steel lock, and I thread the chain through the frame and the front tire. That’s enough to defeat bolt cutters (and my lock has notches on it to prove it), though I’m not sure how it would do against an angle grinder. Though if they have an angle grinder, they might just go through whatever it’s locked to instead of the chain/lock itself. There’s only so much you can do against a very determined thief.

  • @[email protected]
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    Well, then you’re pretty much out of luck because if someone wants to steal your bike, they will, even if it means coming with a rotary saw. And yes, it does happen, depening on the value of the bike.

    My tip coming from a big city with a shitton of bikes: just get a cheap second hand bike that no one will bother with stealing. If you use it for your commute, then it’s good enough.

    If we’re talking about an expensive sports bike, then don’t leave it unattended.

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    610 months ago

    I’d look into a nice beefy lock, I know they make some that are grinder resistant. I think the name of the game is making your bike take longer than a few seconds to steal.

        • @[email protected]
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          710 months ago

          Understand the difference between a recreation bike and a utility bike.

          Having a really awesome mountain bike with top of the line shocks or a super light road bike that costs more than a car is awesome. But don’t park that outside the mcdonald’s.

          Instead, buy a used bike or get a REAL mid-tier bike from target or bikesdirect or whatever. And use that for commuting or going to the store or whatever.

          And if this sounds prohibitively expensive because “enthusiasts” would need to won multiple bikes and need a place to store them? You are starting to understand why “just replace your car with a bike” is a very “upper middle class white person” mentality.

          • @[email protected]
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            410 months ago

            “Replace your car with a bike” is also basically limited to only single or childless adults who live in an urban area with everything they need nearby. Because if you have a family or more than a few miles to places you need to be regularly, you’re going to have a much harder time without a car. So it basically is not applicable to millions of Americans, with our massively large square mileage of country that we occupy.

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              I live in a family of 6, and we were able to live car free for a year when we lived in germany. My dad used to live and work 300 kilometers away, and he would visit us every few weeks, coming by high speed train. My mother did all the buying groceries by bike. And we didnt live in any big city. It was a town of less than 10.000 people. It is possible for families to live car free. We did roadtrips by bike, visited nearby cities, went to beaches by train. We did have the car of a relative available, but we used it some 5 or 6 times in the whole year.

              I dont care if you have a family, you can live car free, if in the right place. And we aren’t super rich or anything, we lived with our relatives, and my dad lived in a friend’s house, who gave him a very big discount.

              And we also didn’t have any 3 bikes each, our bikes were mostly oldies borrowed from old family friends who didn’t need them.

              And if you do the math, 100 dolars a month, is pretty cheap for a car, if you consider gas and wear, so it is cheaper to buy a pretty nice bike every 3 months than to own a car.

            • @[email protected]
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              210 months ago

              So it basically is not applicable to millions of Americans, with our massively large square mileage of country that we occupy.

              It’s funny to me when people use the US’s land size as a reason for needing a car…as if they live in Miami, need to commute to New York for work every day, and have to pick up the kids off from daycare in Anchorage after work.

              It’s not the geography that necessitates cars. It’s poor city planning.

              And now it’s weirdos protesting things like 15-minute cities, as if being able to walk to a grocery store, a department store, a doctor’s office, schools, and a park within 15 minutes from home is a bad thing.

              • @[email protected]
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                210 months ago

                You seem to be ignoring the fact that those millions of square miles are actually occupied, in many parts other than the cities. I don’t care what you do with your big cities, and I don’t know who you’ve seen protesting the alleged 15-minute cities, but the rest of our huge nation still has to operate as well. That’s why we have cars.

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              010 months ago

              limited to only single or childless adults

              I think this is too narrow of an assessment. More common in America than single adults living alone are two adults living together, with each having their own car. So while you’re right that the present American land-use reality isn’t exactly conducive to having a plurality going car-less, it’s entirely probably for a couple to save substantial money by switching one car for a bike and keep just one car for the household. That’s something that can apply in huge swaths of the country, although it’s exceptionally apt for cities.

          • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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            Fuck that. You don’t need to spend more that $300 to replace your car with a bike. But something used and ride it every day. You don’t need more than one.

          • Nougat
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            Bring a second bike along with you, and lock it with a $10 combination lock chain.

            • @[email protected]
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              Or just boltcutter the locks off all the other bikes in the rack. Thieves will think twice about stealing your bike when there are a half dozen better choices.

  • BarqsHasBite
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    There’s a new Ulock that’s apparently resistant to angle grinders. Someone tried on YouTube and they have to go through like 3 discs to do it.

    Also get a “pinhead” bolt system. They replace the hex nuts on the wheels and seat with a round locking nut that you need your key to take off.

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    D-lock through the drive wheel and frame, steel cable though the d-lock and front wheel, steel wire though a closed metal ring/railing. I’ve used this technique for yonks and never had so much as a wheel stolen.

    You don’t need ultramax security unless you’re locking it up outside at night. Deterrence is plenty good enough to stop people from snipping and running.

  • cooljacob204
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    410 months ago

    Two most important things

    1. Don’t leave your bike anywhere overnight.
    2. Don’t make a pattern of leaving it locked up in the same place for long periods of time.

    A nice lock will help a little bit but tbh if they’re determined then they will get it if you slip up and allow them the time.

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    410 months ago

    Remove a wheel, seat and/or handlebars when you lock up. A lot, and I mean a lot, of bikes are stolen out of convenience, and not having a wheel means that someone can’t easily ride it away.

    This won’t deter a motivated Igor Kenk-style thief that steals tens of bikes a day, but it’ll make you less of an opportunity to casual addicts looking to for a ride for the night or something they can flip for cash or drugs.

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      its sorta like the same mindset of driving manual. it wont deter everyone away, but it filters out some of the potential people who can steal it (those who dont know how to drive manual)

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    410 months ago

    A combination of a good lock (I think those Kryptonite New York locks are well reviewed) and having a bike that doesn’t look desirable. If your bike is obviously high end, it’s a target. If it looks like an old beater, thieves probably won’t bother. As often, anyway.

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      I have an old “NEXT” bike that I pinned the front fake shocks because they’re really only springs. I did the same with the rear one by taking out the spring and replacing it with a piece of pipe. It rides good, it’s still a POS that I got for free.