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Empire was 5. All other answers are wrong.
Hoth was cold, the movie was cold and dark, evil wins… Just like real life.
This is the correct answer. A New Hope and Return of the Jedi are quite good as well and Rogue One is amazing, but Empire stands alone at the top and it’s not close.
Return of the Jedi has Luke dressed in black and lightning shooting out of the Emperor’s fingertips. That’s clearly the best.
Finally some sanity. It’s 5 and it’s not even remotely close.
4 + 3 = Rogue One
Rogue One was good, but it wasn’t exactly Empire.
It’s almost correct, in the sense that Rogue One is the prologue (postlogue?) to Andor, which is the best SW media even tho it’s not a movie.
(postlogue?)
Epilogue? Haven’t seen Andor yet so don’t exactly know what you’re looking for.
Presequel
Prequel?
Presequel was used by the Borderlands game that comes between 2 and 3. In the same vein, Andor/Rogue One are the sequels to Episode 3 and the prequels to Episode 4.
Let’s just renumber them all again, so Rogue One is 4, Andor is 5, and A New Hope is 6. That makes Empire 7, proving the OP correct.
So an interquel, then?
I would call it an “insert”
WATCH ANDOR
Epilogues normally come after, both narratively and chronologically.
(postlogue?)
epilogue
That’ll do.
Could be either depending on the order you watch them, but I’m really getting the giggles thinking about Rogue One ending with a record scratch and “I bet you are wondering how I got here!”
Could be either depending on the order you watch them, but I’m really getting the giggles thinking about Rogue One ending with a record scratch and “I bet you are wondering how I got here!”
Absolutely. Star Wars is at its best when it gets away from the goddamn Skywalker.
Dang dude, the infants in this comment section saying 3. It’s clearly 5, there is no other answer.
Watching through them all with my daughter, started at 1, just finished 5. It’s full of errors, like Obi Wan saying that Yoda had trained him and that he (Obi Wan) was as rash and impatient as Luke was. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say that the people making episode 5 hadn’t even seen episodes 1 or 2 and barely paid attention to episode 3!
Lol, is this a joke? I can’t tell on the internet.
As one of those infants, yeah. ESB is a technically superior film. RotS is in the top spot purely for nostalgia reasons.
Dude… Its obviously the first movie, 4.
When they saved the whales
Good effort, Crewman.
Exterminate! Exterminate!
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The logic is flawless.
Empire stands high above the rest. The characters are fleshed out and the structure of the film is impeccable, the story just flows.
Kershner was the best director the series had.
There is only one good Star Wars film, ESB.
Yeah, I can only imagine gen Z who didn’t see the originals first and instead saw the prequels in theaters would put 3 over 5. For me the gap between 5 and the others is just massive, but I also love Star Wars and to me no movie has lacked that specific magic. Even if I need to turn my brain completely off for 2, 7 and 9 to be able to enjoy them…
5,4,6,R1 The rest are largely rubbish but the ending of 3 was solid.
Edit: nvm, that’s 6. I thought it was 7.
You don’t like Return of the Jedi? That’s largely considered the best of them.
5, 4, 6, 8, 7, R1, Solo, 1, 3, 9, 2
No, you’re uninvited from the may the 4th party, and the revenge of the 5th follow-up party.
TLJ is flawed but great and would be higher if TROS weren’t such a cowardly backtracking shitshow of a movie.
ROTS is very nearly as hard to watch as AOTC, though it has some higher highs. I will personally never forgive it for forcing the most brain-twisting mental gymnastics ever to retcon ROTJ’s Luke-Leia “real mother” scene in the Ewok village.
I have found my people. I also liked TLJ. I hated RoS because literally the whole movie spent it’s runtime reversing what Rian did in TLJ.
You got the first two right at least. 5, 4, 3, R1, 6, 1, 8, 7, Solo, 2…9.
Everything that’s annoying about AOTC is there in spades in ROTS.
ROTS just had few better parts.
The immersion breaking total lack of chemistry in 2 between Anikin and Padme, which is my biggest complaint, is hidden by his anxiety in 3. Add some of the best action sequences in SW that are found in 3, and I will have to agree to disagree with you good sir.
Are we allowed to politely disagree and move on??!! I am happy to go into my thoughts as to why ROTS can’t overcome its shortcomings, but a lot of comes down to what hit me as a kid watching the OT and how the PT was such a drastic departure. Certain of those choices were rolled back in the ST, so I’m fonder of it than most, though I’ve been holding a torch for TLJ so long…
We can do that, especially as I loved TLJ when it came out too. 9 kinda soured my taste for it though.
2 would have been a better movie if they had cut out the Naboo part down to pretty much just the kiss, maybe with some text to say they were having a great time or something. Based on their interactions shown, I found them leaving there not liking each other as much more believable than falling in love, especially with the scenes in the capital showing how little respect they had for each other.
Then they could have used that time to make the fight against Dooku longer for each of Anakin, Obi Wan, and Yoda.
Imagine thinking 3 is worse than whatever fucking mess phantom menace was. 7 was 4 but worse
Imagine thinking 3 is worse than whatever fucking mess phantom menace was.
Want to know why Qui Gon dies from a stab when no one else ever does? The man was fucking exhausted from carrying the entire film. Liam Neeson single-handedly elevates TPM above the other two prequels.
7 was 4 but worse.
You’re not wrong, but four was that good
7 wasn’t though, it just followed the same plot structure without anything that made it good
All of the prequels are a mess. RotS just has the most meaningful scenes to the overall plot of the Skywalker Saga.
My answer is 3 because of the Anakin Obi-Wan fight. Is there anyone that likes 3 for a different reason?
Order 66 and how everything came together was cool
Grievous, lots of Jedi doing Jedi things, the hot start with Anakin and Obi-wan going in alone to save the chancellor, did I say Grievous?
Don’t forget Mace Windu’s fight with Palpatine, the only person who could outright beat him 1 on 1 (other than maybe Vader if he had the guts to actually try). Though I don’t know why he had to wind up for that killing blow; that seems like a big writing/directing error. It’s a lightsaber, just dip it down inside his face briefly and then scold Anakin for leaving the council chambers.
My personal order from best to worst Saga movies would be:
5, 4, 6, 3, 2, 1, 7, 8, 9
1 and 7 are kind of on equal footing for me (ranking is almost interchangeable), but overall I think TPM was just kind of a bad start to the Prequels (though they got better), whereas TFA was actually a somewhat strong start to the Sequels that got exponentially worse.
5, 3, 6, R1, 4, 1, 2, Solo, 7, 8, 9
R1 and 4 is really hard to decide so both can swap positions, 1 is better than 2 because of maul, Solo could be a great movie if they didn’t make the whole Han background happen in a few days, 8 and 9 sucks.
Here’s the controversial take: that scale starts at 7/10 and goes down from there. Because Star Wars is a mediocre series overall. And I like the stories, but making a great star wars movies seems to be out of reach for Hollywood writers and directors.
1 is better than 2 for basically every single reason you can think of. At the end of the day, 1 is simply less boring than 2.
Pretty much, 2 is boring as hell. But Anakin in the 2 is less annoying than kid Anakin to me.
The current order is:
5, 3, R1, 4, 6, Solo, 2, 1, 7, 9, 8
I think a general sense of hatred of the prequels prevents folks from giving Revenge of the Sith its due. Lucas writing and direction improved greatly from Eps 1 and 2, and 3 is really a fantastic movie.
For the sequels, however, 8 and 9 are on equal grounds of suckage. I still say that 8 ruined any hope that the sequels had and 9 was just a dumpster fire of trilogy ending.
I’ll watch 3 again on Friday just to prove you wrong
Edit: turns out I had just enough time between meetings this afternoon. Still pretty meh. It’s no 2, but it still doesn’t hold a candle to the original.
5, 6, 4, 3, 2, R1, 7, 1, Solo, 8, Holiday Special, 9
Empire is the best. It has solid writing, a clear vision, and is surprisingly tight in its execution. Just look at the duel between Luke and Vader, where every action they take communicates something about the character, it’s not just mindless action filler. Hell, they even avoid the incompetent stormtroopers problem, as they only miss shots that are actually difficult.
RotJ has some silliness and the emperor’s plan is idiotic, but it’s still a satisfying end to the trilogy, even with the damn ewoks.
3 is improved over 1 and 2 but still has weak writing, spotty acting, pacing problems, and a lot of little issues that add up.
Rogue 1 is a mess. The droid is mildly amusing, Donnie Yen is full of wasted potential, and Grand moff Shrek is jarring, but everyone else is bland and forgettable. It’s only saving grace is a cool fight at the end, but that doesn’t excuse the boredom leading up to it. At least AotC was interesting in its incompetence.
7 is an empty husk. It wants to echo a new hope, but it doesn’t know how to do that without just undoing the original trilogy. It’s Star Wars designed by committee and sanitized by the marketing dept.
Bad mouthing TPM is beating a dead horse. Darth Maul is cool. Episode 1 pinball was fucking awesome. And everything else sucks.
The best thing I can say about Solo is that it was forgettable.
Last Jedi thought it was brave for giving us unsatisfying answers to the questions that TFA probably shouldn’t have asked. Too bad it wasn’t brave enough to do anything interesting or different with the actual plot, like having Kylo or Rey actually switch sides during the cliche “join me” scene. Wouldn’t want a scene of him coming back to his mom looking for redemption and her needing to deal with the conflicting emotions that come from wanting her son back, but knowing that he killed his father. No, we couldn’t do that, it would be too unexpected and different. And it wouldn’t leave time for angry milking, the pointless casino quest, and unjustified paranoia driving a conflict that in no way serves the plot, and all the other time wasters that make up this piece of shit.
Yes, the Star Wars Holiday Special is better than RoS.
RoS barely qualifies as a movie. It’s like someone took random pages from ten different scripts for possible sequels and shuffled them together. The Room, Troll 2, and Plan 9 From Outer Space are all smarter movies with better stories. The only things separating this shit from those movies are a huge budget and the Star Wars IP.
I can’t believe people still have a hate boner for TLJ, it’s far and away the best non Original Trilogy movie.
Best to Worst
3, Solo, 5, R1, 6, 4, 1, 2, 7, 8, 9
RotS has a special place in my heart since I grew up with the prequels. Getting to watch Anakin’s fall into becoming Darth Vader was incredible. It really felt like the whole series had been building up to that one moment.
Solo is my favorite of the Disney offerings since it recaptured the fun of Star Wars. It’s stupid and schlocky and I love every minute of it. Really wish it hadn’t bombed and I blame TLJ entirely. We could be in a golden age of standalone Star Wars movies like Solo and Rogue One if not for TLJ and ROS ruining everything.
I’m surprised to see Solo so high. It was definitely way better than 8 or 9 and I 100% agree with you that the movie was punished for the sins of 8. Han meeting Chewbacca and getting the Falcon was great. The Parsec Run was made well and I’m glad they included it.
For me, the movie just has too much fan service. Han getting his gun, his vest AND his name in the movie was too much for me. Maybe it sounds nitpicky, but it was so much fan service that I felt disrespected as a viewer. It is almost like they wanted to bribe me with nostalgia so I like the movie, and that backfired. The overall pacing of the movie was alright, but every 10 minutes they had to add a “oh remember this from Star Wars?” moment and that was too forced for me.
My List is 5, 3, 4, R1, 6, 1, Solo, 2, 7, 8, 9
This list is accurate although I would place solo behind 4
That’s probably where Solo belongs in terms of quality.
It just scratched an itch for me. Like they went out of their way to make a movie that catered specifically to my tastes and the things I enjoy in Star Wars.
“Fun” means something different to everyone. In general, I would say that if Star Wars ever had a consistent tone, “fun” isn’t it. The OG trilogy is “fun” in the sense that there are brief moments of comic relief, but some may say the inventiveness and the world-building made it fun. The prequel trilogy is “fun” because it has rad lightsaber battles, but otherwise, they’re terribly dull films.
I don’t disagree that experiencing SW is fun, but the movies aren’t really fun in my opinion. At the films’ best, they’re thrilling adventures, but incredibly dark in tone. A swashbuckling heist movie sounds like great fun and that it could fit inside the SW universe, but it doesn’t seem like it has any of the hallmarks of any of the films.
Personal opinion. Not here to start a war.
All fair points!
When I think of Star Wars I think of a fantasy adventure in SPACE!
Luke swinging across a pit to escape the Stormtroopers and save the princess. The ear candy that is Jango Fett’s seismic charges. R2 firing a lightsaber out of his head from Jabba’s yacht. Yoda lifting the X-wing out of the swamp. Podracing.
These were the things George Lucas was really good at. Quotable, cheesy dialogue. Intense action scenes. Over the top drama. Eye candy.
I don’t think of it as dark or complicated. It can tell dark stories, and I love what the EU has done in that space, but it’s ultimately an optimistic setting where light triumphs over darkness.
It wasn’t just TLJ - they released it at basically the same time as Infinity War. It is almost like they wanted it to bomb.
Haha yeah Solo was just good old Star Wars fun. R1 honestly stands as my 3rd favorite.
Rogue One is the best in my opinion
