This feels like it’s meant to be a joke, but it’s not.
Far-right Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir says the provision of humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza endangers Israeli soldiers and must stop after more than 100 Palestinians were reported killed while trying to get aid in Gaza City.
“Today it was proven that the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza is not only madness while our hostages are held in the Strip … but also endangers IDF soldiers,” Ben-Gvir said, calling the deliveries “oxygen to Hamas”.
The incident is “another clear reason why we must stop transferring this aid”, he wrote on X.
Ben-Gvir also said Israel must “provide complete support to our heroic fighters operating in Gaza, who acted excellently against a Gazan mob that tried to harm them”.
It is crazy to starve people to procced calling them barbars for being desperate. But here they (the fasicst government) are, using this exact argument to justify a massacre.
This logic is absurd. We killed 100 people, therefore the aid has to stop, because it allows us to kill civilians.
Have you considered not killing civilians?
This logic is absurd. We killed 100 people, therefore the aid has to stop, because it allows us to kill civilians.
Have you considered not killing civilians?
Remember the beginning of Black Hawk Down when the warlord’s men machine gun the people trying to get bags of grain? And the Black Hawk crew couldn’t engage?
Yeah, it’s like that, except we’re paying the warlord’s army this time.
We told you you shouldn’t use those bullets on civilians. Here, have some more. But this time no civilian casualties, ok? You’ve done it again, haven’t you? Here, have some bombs.
I’m not sure we even bother to suggest they don’t use them on civilians.
Publicy they do suggest it, then deny it has been done, then “utter concern”, then suggest it again. Meanwhile sending all the weapons they can.
Fuck fascism, fuck the monstrous IDF, fuck Netanyahu.
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DefenseOffensive ForcesMore like Israeli Genocide Forces
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I had to check. Really.
Sorry but this post is clearly anti-Semitic as it fails to condemn HAMAS’ violent attack on 7th of October 2023. /s
I don’t know if you’re a fan of Some More News, but their most recent episode was on all the terrible arguments to justify the Israeli genocide and the ‘title monkey’ keeps repeatedly asking “but do you condemn Hamas?”
It’s pretty amusing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrGlRax9AiY&pp=ygUOc29tZSBtb3JlIG5ld3M%3D
But do you condemn hamas?
Reminder to always watch the ending clip, there’s always some last joke or line or something after the credits too.
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Top quality editorial here…
Editorial of what? There’s no cite or anything. To me this is just some image somebody made and not reputable.
It’s been on the news all day dude. At some point you have to actually pay attention.
As a professional victim I prefer to ignore everything until it’s advantageous to me to know so.
I posted this on Not the Onion https://lemmy.world/post/12579738
Why won’t somebody think of the feelings of the guards of the extermination camp???!
Its so messed up
Why yes, because over 100
IDFIOF soldiers were massacred, right?.. Right?Feeding starving kids is the most vile anti-semitic thing I can think of.
As we all know antisemitism is when something makes Zionists feel uncomfortable such as the truth.
Feels ?
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Check your votes… No one is buying this… We all see what is happening. But you are a bot so not sure why I’m replying to you.
Israel is a genocide state.
I heard this a lot. The reality is, if hamas surrender now, they will still be out there looking for hamas, because no one know how many hamas is out there, who is the hamas, or when will hamas strike.
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hamas brought this over their own people
This started in 1917. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
Then there was Nakba in 1948. Literally catastrophe. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/nakba-palestine-catastrophe-explained
Hamas was founded in 1988 and revised their charter in 2017. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full
nazis in Germany for example did the same
Comparing a resistance movement against a colonizing occupier to the actions that two industrialized nations took against each other during wartime is not really the best way to frame this. If we look at the colonial expansion of the United States against the Native tribes and collectives that were already here, that had established their own system of governing based on mutual collaboration, it gives us a better perspective and context.
You know, i don’t really wanna engage with these “they brought it upon themselves” argument, because it’s really just gonna spiral down into endless back and forth where the origin is only remotely resemble the issue today. To say palestinian deserve what they get because of Hamas is like saying Israeli deserve what they get because of Netanyahu.
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You didn’t explicitly say “deserving”, you’re implying. Heavily. There’s no strawman.
Isolating this situation in such a narrow timeline doesn’t make it better either, it’s a very complex issue that need to have a clear separation between modern conflict and past. Which is why I don’t want to engage in discussing, people will either only isolate the whole situation to the current conflict or be very quickly point out the ancient history.
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When Lebanon laid down their arms and surrendered with security guarantee from the US that they wold not be harmed, israel committed mass rape and Genocide. This is also where they stole the “pregnant women with the baby ripped out” story from. Israel actually did that themselves:
Janet Lee Stevens, an American journalist, later wrote to her husband, Dr. Franklin Lamb, “I saw dead women in their houses with their skirts up to their waists and their legs spread apart; dozens of young men shot after being lined up against an alley wall; children with their throats slit, a pregnant woman with her stomach chopped open, her eyes still wide open, her blackened face silently screaming in horror; countless babies and toddlers who had been stabbed or ripped apart and who had been thrown into garbage piles.”
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2001/06/22/israel-sharon-investigation-urged
As Defense Minister, Ariel Sharon had overall responsibility over the Israeli Defense Forces and allowed Phalangist militias to enter the camps where they terrorized the residents for three days.
During the BBC program, Morris Draper, the U.S. Special Envoy to the Middle East at the time, said that U.S. officials were horrified when told Sharon had allowed Phalange militias into West Beirut and the camps “because it would be a massacre.” He told the BBC that after the killings began he cabled Defense Minister Sharon, telling him, “You must stop the slaughter…. The situation is absolutely appalling. They are killing children. You have the field completely under your control and are therefore responsible for that area.”
Lebanese israel-backed anti-Palestinian Fascists which were pointed to the camp by israel, armed with weapons. The IDF knew very well they would commit that massacare, the IDF which surrounded the camp made sure to defend the Phalangist militias while they commited their massacare.
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The Kahan Commission (named after the President of the Israeli Supreme Court) that investigated the massacre in 1983 concluded that “Minister of Defense [Sharon] bears personal responsibility” and should “draw the appropriate personal conclusions arising out of the defects revealed with regard to the manner in which he discharged the duties of his office.” The commission recommended that Prime Minister Menachem Begin remove Sharon from office if he did not resign. Sharon did resign as minister of defense, though he subsequently assumed other cabinet positions. Annexes of the commission report have not yet been made public, and it is not known if they contain additional information specific to Sharon´s involvement.
By all accounts, the perpetrators of this indiscriminate slaughter were members of the Phalange (or Kata´eb, in Arabic) militia, a Lebanese force that was armed by and closely allied to Israel since the outbreak of Lebanon´s civil war in 1975. It must be noted, however, that the killings were carried out in an area under IDF control. An IDF forward command post was situated on the roof of a multi-story building located some 200 meters southwest of the Shatilla camp.
I guess these people can’t read either because if it’s israels responsibility that sure sounds like israel did it.
Maybe you can send the Human Rights Watch a message to correct them. Be sure to link your wikipedia quote.
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And I think it would help (at least not harm anyone) if israel (which is a Nazi ethostate) would lay their arms down.
Hey you know what they could do to solve this? A permanent ceasefire! Which Hamas agree to (wow)!
Guess who doesn’t?
Ah, yes, and Israel will just continue their occupation and genocide of Gaza indefinitely. There’s a reason Hamas exists you moron.
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Why so serious citizen?
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Post like this basically give the election to trump. Stop the madness.
Edit: Jesus fuck! Do I really need to write /s on this sub? A point of clarity for those who doubt. Biden has failed to use his political power to stop a heinous act. We can’t always stop horrors everywhere, but here we can actively do something. Frankly, we should be delivering aid directly under the guidance on UNRA.
Ceasefire now. Free Palestine.
What gives the election to trump is biden’s inability to not support genocide. Trying to get people to be quiet about it only makes me wanna vote for him even less than I already do, since he’s clearly the pro-genocide candidate
If you think the US stance torwards Israel would change just one bit under Trump, you are very mistaken.
He won’t be better. But as a non american I can understand why someone would feel voting a genocide enabler is just impossible. Here in Germany it is a somewhat comparable situation (but at least I can give my vote for a minority party, that might actually get into parliament).
Remember when Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel? People are kill-informed if they think things get better for the Palestinians under Trump 2.0.
I almost feel like a dummy for falling for this cx I wouldn’t have a few months ago, but lately I’ve seen a lot of liberals share this sentiment genuinely. The idea that any criticism of biden or things he supports is russian or chinese propaganda trying to get trump elected. It seems to have calmed down recently, but a few weeks ago I saw someone saying pro palestinian protestors were russian spies who should be shot
You gotta be kidding me!
All it takes is for one man, Joe Biden, to act differently in this one thing, to pretty much guarantee that Trump loses.
Yet instead of that one man stopping support for Fascists and their Genocide, we get endless parroting if this, frankly disgusting, propaganda that the “only way” is for millions of people to swallow their principles and humanitarianism and endorse a guy activelly supporting a Genocide.
Why should millions yield in their unwillingness to have mass murder activelly supported in their name and with their taxes all just so that one guy, one single guy, can continue using the resources he has been entrusted with by voters to activelly support mass murder?!
I don’t understand this comment after my edit. It was sarcastic. Biden can and should stop funding and supplying Israel. I think the sooner he does so, the sooner he secures the youth vote, and relectuant progressive, and the Muslim American vote.
Did the edit not convey that?
Does anyone think that trump would act any differently? That he would put a stop to any of this? He literally tear gassed protesters for a photo op.
I don’t understand how that is some sort of salve for genocide. Am I suppose to feel better knowing that Biden and Trump enable genocide? Lesser of two evils doesn’t mean we don’t end up in an awful place.
I wasn’t commenting on that. I was commenting on how someone said this gives trump a win. It doesn’t, he would act the same way. They both have blood on their hands. Btw, I’m wondering when the holocaust pass that Israel gets expires? When does it become wrong again when they commit the very crimes that were perpetrated against their ancestors? Just wondering.
Source? There’s no chance this is real.
It’s real. They opened fire on a crowd of civilians trying to get food aid from an aid truck.
I really want to believe that poster meant that there’s no way the headline in the image is real, but…
Found the article by middle east eye but the article is vague, and apparently they quote from Israel but taken it out of context. Very typical of MEE. But the truth isn’t too far off.
Here’s the quote in question from CNN:
Israel confirmed its forces fired on people, saying crowds had threatened their troops
Here’s another one from CNN, detailing the event.
