When scrolling Lemmy (compared to reddit in the past), all I see is doom and gloom / news. I don’t see interesting conversations or comments to read.
Occasionally I’ll find something, and I’ve been contributing more, but there’s just so much doom that it fills my feed.
I’ve had to unsubscribe from many communities bc it’s just doom news reposts…
Is it just me?
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It’s not just you, but it’s not just Lemmy either. Anywhere I go, I need to prune subs or else my feed becomes more and more pessimistic.
I think as a species we have a mental bias that focuses on what needs changing and not what’s okay as it is.
I’m convinced that we can address needs for changes while not being doomsday cultists either; I’m pretty much doing it as much as I can while not being a drama queen about it and generally shutting the fuck up.
But it doesn’t get me much attention which I guess is what the cultists are after.
People are tiring of the shouting, though. The cultists will find out eventually that people can’t be mad all the time if you want your shit to work.
Nazism lasted 22 years. (Counting the Beer Hall Putsch to WWII surrender.)
Buckle up. It can and will get much worse, at least here in the US.
The plus side is that, even among the Nazis, there were innumerable examples of people doing good with their own two hands. No one can stop you from doing that.
I hope so… we need more discussing to help everyone find what they can do and that requires more listening and less shouting indeed.
I’m like 90% sure the actual hard in doomsayers are paid posters hired by the fossil fuel lobby.
It’s become obvious that Millennials and Zoomers see fossil fuels as a curse upon the land and if they get into power they’ll do everything they can to kill the industry outright, so what’s there to do instead except to burn them out to the point that they give up?
Where they can’t get approval, they’ll instead force apathy.
Edit: see below convo with doomsayer insisting they’re saying anything worthwhile when they push the fossil lobby line.
I’m a millennial and have been called a “doomer” because I realize it’s essentially too late. I know people don’t like to think that, but the reality is that nothing of any significance has or is being done to curb global warming. You couple that with the fact we’ve literally poisoned everything, including ourselves, with no way to clean it up and I don’t see the quality of life for humans being great after 2050. You can blow me off as a shill if you’d like, but this is just reality. Additionally, my generation and gen z have a significant number of fascists and the pollution continues, so I don’t think that’s the solution you’re hoping for. I’d love to be wrong, but that isn’t backed by the facts.
I mean the Ottawa conference literally led to cutting temperature increase by the end of the century in half but sure kid, nothing of substance has been done.
There is nothing the fossil lobby loves more than for you to be pissy about your right to give up. You’re not just letting them win, you’re getting amgy with people pointing out that you’re letting them win.
Where was I angry? I was adding to the conversation and you decided to be a whiny asshole with your sad attempt at belittling me (kid, really?). You’re quite pathetic, bud.
Because if someone is pathetic it’s definitely not the punk going to bat for the fossil lobby’s position, definitely not.
Lol, get a life guy.
It’s become obvious that Millennials and Zoomers see fossil fuels as a curse upon the land
That’s quite a hasty generalization. May be true on Lemmy but not in the real world. Especially when it comes to millenials.
Not really, millennials and Zoomers overwhelmingly poll as either seeing the climate crisis as the biggest issue or as it being second biggest next to the affordable housing crisis,
In both cases, the fossil fuel industry is at least partially to blame
Yeah but that’s not the same as them seeing fossil fuels as a curse. A huge portion of them are more than happy to own a car.
Having to own one to be able to do anything but stay home isn’t the same as being more than happy to own one.
Get some Not Just Bikes up in yo head.
Car culture is still very much alive and well among zoomers and millenials. Your generalization doesn’t represent the reality. I’d say that around half of my male friends like owning a car. The rest of them either cant afford owning one or don’t want to because they live in a big city. Even those are more than happy to drive around with one they borrowed from their parents.
Where are the creators? The cosplayers? The rube goldberg machines made out of post it’s and shot glasses? The “I draw pictures by playing notes on a piano” people? The people porting Doom to a yoga mat? The “I made a car out of thrown out Crocs” people? The “I built a treadmill for my friend’s overweight insects” people?
This is the stupidest shit I could think of but people are out there making and doing weirder/amazing-er things… Where are those people in Lemmy? I browse All and it’s just politics, linux, and shit posts.
You’ve gotta start somewhere.
Consider that with both Reddit and Digg, their initial communities where mostly technical, and with time, the creative people slowly and gradually got in.
However IMO finding an active community within the diaspora of finicky servers and empty channels, makes it less alluring than a centralized service.
I simply hope that at some point, finding out communities will become easier.
Where are those people in Lemmy?
Also, for those few posts of creative stuff around here, where are the people to upvote and comment on them?
Hey I’m a musician/creator actually! I’m attempting to be the change I wish to see! I haven’t shared anything here because I treat Lemmy as more discussion oriented but on Mastodon I’ve shared my first Peertube upload.
I just refuse to be like those “pick me” people who are only on a platform in hopes of building their “brand”. I truly want to make friends here and if they happen to like my tunes when I occasionally share them that’s fucking dope for me. I’m seeing quite a few people like me too who are using the federation as more than the grind for fame. Overtime we will get the pick me’s, but I think we will get a lot of decent artists in it for artistry sake
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https://tanukitunes.com/channels/supersynthiamusic. I just uploaded, thanks for the encouragement!
I’m still okay with a bit of politics discussion, but seeing US politics on timeline everyday?? I am NOT a US citizen and I DO NOT CARE about their politics at all. And the doomerism posting, so so tired of them.
That’s why I tend to follow casual community like !artshare, music related stuff, etc. I also made a community for japanese trains, though it’s my first time running a community so I’m kinda confused how to run the community.
I just blocked all the US-specific comms, it’s not too interesting to me and if its really big I just see it through national news and not through Lemmy.
Could you link to your trains community, please?
Sweet!
For better or worse, they’re busy creating rather than being overly concerned about their platform.
I don’t how many times in my life I’ve thought “this thing I’m doing is really cool, I should share it!” And immediately follow it up with “yeah but why would I care if anyone else sees it? I’m doing this for me, not them.”
And as time goes on I think less and less about impressing other people and just take pleasure in my own skills and creations, and let me tell you, it’s way better this way.
I don’t how many times in my life I’ve thought “this thing I’m doing is really cool, I should share it!” And immediately follow it up with “yeah but why would I care if anyone else sees it? I’m doing this for me, not them.”
I feel this.
And as time goes on I think less and less about impressing other people and just take pleasure in my own skills and creations, and let me tell you, it’s way better this way.
But sharing isn’t necessarily about impressing people. I don’t know what it is you’re talking about, but whatever it is could help someone learn something, bring them enjoyment, or some other impact that can make it worth while. Or on a more personal note, you might get those same benefits out of it as well.
Hello friend, can I interest you in making post apocalyptic battle cars out of Hotwheels?
No I’m not learning the rules to Gaslands.
The cosplayers?
I’m here, but I think I’m the only one to have posted in the last 4 months. I just make a couple cosplays per year as a hobby, so I don’t really have much to post. And asking for cosplay help seems pointless. Here I could wait a week for one response, whereas on instagram I’ll get 5 different ways to fix my issue in an hour
reddit had some decent cosplay discussion, but as far as i can tell, most of the community is just on instagram (and some youtube)
I’ll be posting a DIY solder fume filter soon. Followed by some home automation sensors, 3D printed steam deck accessories, and custom pegboard mounts. Creating seems to all end at the same time.
Make sure to at least cross post it over at [email protected]. We haven’t had content in a while and your stuff would fit perfectly.
Will do.
Quite a few seem to be on Discuit, which is a lot more lighthearted.
I have made quite a few short video edits that I post here. I’m doing what I can, but the creativity well is starting to run dry honestly. There are definitely some of us out there making stuff for Lemmy.
Stop doomposting and start DOOMposting.
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Happiness has to be fought for.
Post and comment. Until it is done.
Instructions unclear, fighting demons on Phobos.
Instructions unclear, ripping and tearing.
Yeah, times are kinda rough right now
I recommend [email protected] but it’s not super active, about a post a day
[email protected] is also good
Oh yeah, that one’s great too
That community is also guilty tbh. Sorry for bringing this up, but I saw the other day about “Children school food debt” or something like that on that community, and I was like, what? How is that uplifting at all?
Yeah, it’s hard to see the “orphan crushing machine temporarily stopped” headlines as a positive for me, too. I had to stop looking at that community. It didn’t seem they were particularly open to feedback about those articles, either.
I love the whole “orphan crushing machine” term. It’s a great way to describe the ridiculous phenomenon of framing bad things as good things.
Ok, I didn’t see the post you’re talking about, so idk
The posts I’ve seen have been uplifting to me
Subscribed!
Nice, joined.
I find that eventually those kind of posts end up filled with people who either have to explain why the thing is actually bad, or “that’s nice, but what about this thing that’s bad!”. To every post.
Hopefully that doesn’t happen here, and I’ll try not to be negative :)
I have two accounts. One with nothing blocked, and this one were I blocked all the serious subs, news subs, depressing subs, etc. so that I could switch to it when things got overwhelming.
Ended up being so much happier with the filtered feed I almost never flip back. I’m still aware of current happenings from other sources and Lemmy is my chill out spot and I love it.
I added porn subs into my main. Break up the doom with boobies
I recommend going in heavy with the community and user blocking. Manually curating your feed is the only way to make social media even barely tolerable. You’ll feel some FOMO at first thinking that by blocking you’re going to miss something. Yes you are but you also wont know what you’re missing so it doesn’t matter. Personally I have set several content filters aswell so threads about Elon, Twitter, Reddit, Trump, Taylor Swift etc. get automatically hidden.
On top of this I have around 500 blocked users and about the same amount of instances (mostly porn and foreign ones) I sometimes see a thread with more replies than what I’m seeing or that a blocked user has commented on my message. When I log out to see what it is, my conclusion virtually every time is that “yep, you’re staying blocked”
Bro what is up with the porn instances. Before blocking them 70% of my feed we’re tits or dicks.
Are you asking why there is so much porn on the internet lol
Actually… That’s a great question lol.
Boobs are nice and fun to look at.
This is why I’m on so many blocklists.
No. Wait.
aswell
Not really a word, my millennial friend.
That’s why.
I can definitely see why you’re on so many blocklists.
Just added you to mine.
[email protected] has been on fire lately and comments can spark some good learnin
Thanks for the suggestion!
I second that community is awesome
Yes! I’m also very tired of the repetitive “capitalism bad. America bad. XYZ terrible for the environment” replies. We get it, you have things you don’t like. You don’t need to repeat it on literally every single subject that exists. There are so many low-effort comments that just recycle the same 3 subjects over and over again, regardless of the actual original topic.
My favorite example of this so far, the top rated comment on a post about players making a one million science per hour factory in factorio:
Factorio is proprietary software, Mindustry is not
Lemmy is so negative, it even hates Factorio.
Do you mean this comment? It may have been at the time you saw it, but it didn’t last.
Yep, that was it. Makes me feel a little bit better that every comment under it is calling it out though, thanks for the follow-up.
Yeah, the ratio of fanatics and extremists to regular people is very high here.
It’s mostly bots and LLMs spreading authoritarian propaganda, not real people.
DaE Le gUiLloTiNe? Eat the rich!! Everything is a conspiracy, nothing is a result of complicated systems and incentives!
We do need to address certain toxic traits that are bringing things down, hyper negativity is the default as well as intense partisanship to the point where anyone with a slightly unpopular opinion is instantly labeled as an troll, bot, or agent of dark forces - you can see it a dozen times just in this thread.
There is no debate here because anyone who doesn’t follow the groupthink is chased out, the news is super biased because of this but it also spills over in to everywhere.
I think there are too many people that think they should be the dictator of lemmy, we really need to start up voting good posts and useful content rather than knee-jerk down voting.
Yep. It’s like everytime I comment maybe we are not really making ukrainian lifes easier by giving them bombs ppl will insult me or at the very least call me russian agent. I’ve never been in Russia, have 0 russian/simpatizer friends and I think Putin is a despot, bc he is. Five comments insulting me have been removed already. Please keep up the good work.
I can’t even tell if this is satire.
I know my opinion is very unpopular, but apparently at least 7 ppl here think I deserve to be insulted for it.
Downvotes aren’t insults and no one replied to you except me. But I’m curious, how do you think letting Russia topple Ukraine would improve their lives? That’s what not giving them weapons does, allows Ukraine to invade and take their country. And it won’t stop there, Crimea and the current war is evidence of that.
I appreciate your interest for an intellectual argumentation. I guess you mean Russia to invade Ukraine.
The same way you said downvotes of my complaint about insulting me doesn’t necessarily mean they support it, notice I never said the solution is to let Russia militarily overtake Ukraine.
Ppl love to talk how good they are doing to Ukraine, but the conflict doesn’t really seem ending anytime soon. I just admit I don’t know myself how this mess is solved.
That said, if I was ukrainian I would totally prefer to be supported by allied troops, not only bombs. Instead we made Ukraine Europe’s real life Battlefield game. Good to test new military equipment and watch russians being blown up from our warm livingrooms and coffee tables.
Are you Russian or Chinese by chance? I typically don’t hear people saying that Russia is doing a great job, instead I usually hear what you say, that it will probably go on for a long time.
Western countries giving support, weapons, and ammunition to Ukraine and also volunteers from other countries going to fight with them mean that they have a chance at holding Russia off. If Western support were to end, Russia would fairly quickly take over and annex Ukraine, which they promised not to do again after Crimea. Russia thought this would be a quick 3 day special operation, but they underestimated Zelenskyy and his ability to bring Ukraine together, so it’s turned into a 2 year war. After 2 years, Ukraine doesn’t have the supplies needed to hold them off.
However, if NATO invoked Article 5 for any physical or cyberattacks against, say, Poland, or if the US or any country decided to send boots on the ground in Ukraine, Putin and military leaders have threatened the use of nuclear force too many times to chance calling their bluff as when it comes to nukes, you only have to be wrong once and the entire world suffers.
So it’s a complicated situation but currently the only outcomes seem to be supporting them with weapons and ammunition and intelligence, or letting them to fall to Russia.
Dude, did you even read my comment earlier? I said I don’t even have russian friends or simpatizers. What makes you still believe I’m russian?
Anyways, all you say is captain obvious staff. Nothing new or own thinking process. I guess it’s easier to sleep at night when all is figured out.
Listen one thing: it’s true Putin threatens with nukes in case Nato troops join the fight. You are 100% sure the right solution for this conflict is to aid Ukraine militarily. But didn’t Putin also threaten to use nukes if Ukraine was to win the war?
The echochamber formed fast and hard here. It’s really sad to see. It feels less like a new place and more like another clubhouse. And ffs, content is so slow. Gotta surf top of all time and still barely find content.
It probably reflects the minds of the people. With good reason. It will take proactive curation of your feed to avoid it. Good luck
It mostly feels like bots throwing up whatever content they find based.on popular topics.
Sure, but they were popular topics to begin with. Things are getting worse for certain segments of society, and it’s actually a good thing that there is a sobering outlook and not willfully ignoring their plight.
Yes. This place is relentlessly negative, and I’m no sunny optimist myself.
I aggressively block communities and on some occasions, people who are obvious agenda pushers. It takes a mildly annoying amount of work to clear away the mess and keep it cleared, but it can be done. It’s okay to block shit.
The bubble has burst, none of the fun communities I subbed to when I came over have any active users left anymore. It’s all the same 3-4 people posting news and rhetoric.
Be the change, become the active user
but that’s going to need some effort. The bots and marketing agencies did all the post on reddit. I just wanna scroll and complain. 😭
Activity has actually been picking up lately imo.
Specifically which communities do you think died out?
All of them that are not AI, news, gaming, Linux or technology in general?
I know that Lemmy has a fairly small range of interests, but I don’t know of any communities that were once highly active and have since gone dormant.
He said the bubble has burst and there were fun communities when he first came over that are no longer active. I’m asking for an example, because according to my recollection, there never really were active communities outside of the topics you mention.
And there actually are handful of active communities on other topics. [email protected] comes to mind.
That’s not specific (or true) though, there are plenty of active niche communities, especially those for localities. Which communities would you like to be more active?
Agree. The amount of people doom saying, massively blowing things out of proportion, or having victim complexes is out of control. If you got all your news from Lemmy, you’d think society as we know it is about to collapse… or at least American society.
Reddit has a lot of downfalls, but at least it was diverse and the memes were better.
the memes were better.
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Lemmy, and .ml in particular is absolutely infested with right wing trolls hiding behind the thinnest veneer of leftism who are trying to doom post over the economy and geopolitics hoping young voters will check out and not vote.
It’s literally the exact same playbook from 2016, and it’s amazing more people don’t see it.
Meh maybe a few are doing it with malicious intent but it’s more likely that most of the “right wing trolls” don’t even know they’re right wing trolls. It’s probably real people who feel genuine moral justification for their statements.
It’s not right wing trolls, it’s CCP and Kremlin shills and LLMs.
I found a decent amount of right-wing trolls on ml also. Though the majority hang out on other instances because ml does silence the more extreme alt-right talking points.
They’re not right wing trolls, maybe not even people. It’s propaganda from shills and LLMs that supports the extremes on both sides in order to fracture the target society. Divide and conquer in the 21st century.
Exhibit A right here. If you disagree, you’re a troll/shill or Russian bot. Ffs people like you completely destroy meaningful discourse here and then you blame everyone else.
I say there’s not enough Doom posting. RIP AND TEAR
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