Seriously. The thread has a plot thicker than a soap opera.
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I don’t feel ashamed, but I often feel cold.
I like my nether region to not freeze and fall off.
My youngest thinks it hilarious to be naked 🤷♂️
I was told that you haven’t learned the joy of parenthood until you’ve struggled for 10 minutes to get a kid into clothes, only for it to get out of them on their own in 10 seconds.
I remember thinking it was hilarious.
Out of the bath, down the hall, run around the living room screaming “rudie nudie!”
Fitting username
Shhh, you’re ruining the vibe…
Plenty of African tribes run around with their tits out.
They haven’t learned it, and probably never need it either.
I was pretty sure we wear clothes to protect ourselves from the elements. They’re tools. Were tool
monkeysapes.
The bible is the truth because the bible says the bible is the truth, checkmate.
And God declared “Let this cloth cover your shame! Wait… we’re not at that part yet. Here’s a tree that grows food which you cant eat.”
…or maybe because a) you christians told us it was shameful, or b) it gets really fucking cold outside of Africa*.
^*where our species originally came from^
Clothes are tools
Sure, clothes are tools, but where does shame over nudity come from? Like, a hammer is a tool, but I’m not embarrassed about being caught in public without my hanmer.
These could come from selection pressure. In a survival scenario being caught in the rain while nude can lead to death. Minor cuts can become infected and do the same. Both can be mitigated by covering yourself. How much you should cover is situational but wholly forgoing clothes when survival isn’t effectively guaranteed isn’t a smart move.
But how did it get to be so universal, and for so long? As far as I know, virtually every culture has has some kind of clothing, particularly around the genitals of all things, pretty much forever.
To clarify: I’m hypothesizing, I do not know for certain this is how it happened. As for how: There’s two ways that could’ve happened, #1 it developed in an ancestral population to all living groups and they took the trait with them, or #2 the fact Humans are so bad at dealing with exposure imposed this trait on all of us Convergent Evolution style.
You don’t speak for me.
I know a lot of Catholic people that don’t believe in the bible shit. Which defeats the purpose of the religion if you ask me.
They still go to church and repeat all the shit they get told to repeat.
They believe there was Jesus and that there’s a god. But that’s about it. Weird to ne, but fine, whatever.
If you really believe in stuff like Adam and Eve, you really need professional help, as you are mentally unstable or just maleducated.
I would get it if they all just openly said they were in it because they want something to belong to or they enjoyed the community. But I grew up in that shit and know they all hate each other, or at least judge the fuck out of and talk tremendous shit about each other.
I’d love to have a place where I can go weekly and see the same folks and bond and fellowship(as the Christian’s say) with my neighbors. But I guess it’s hard to do that when there isn’t the threat of damnation for not attending
I’m lucky my DnD group doesn’t need the threat of damnation for not attending
Depends on the DnD group
Yup, that’s my point
Hey, if your religion has a bunch of stupid shit, but you practice it without believing the stupid shit…sounds like a win to me. Most of us would be better off if more Christians were like that.
Depends on what part you practice. If it’s the wrong part, you get MAGA people.
Which part of the Bible gets you MAGA?
The killing of enemies part, for one.
I know a lot of Catholic people that don’t believe in the bible shit. Which defeats the purpose of the religion if you ask me.
Actually, this is the normal state of things. The old testament especially was originally written in a sort of literary mode. It’s meant to be interpreted in a sort of metaphorical sense, not taken as a literal account of events. To quote from this video by someone with a background in religious studies:
The Bible is a collection of documents, written in many different literary genres, edited over a long period of time, whose main purpose is to make theological points, not to serve as a record of literal history.
This other video from the same creator, particularly the final section on “genre”, is also good. It explains how the bible was written in a literary mode and not in the way that a historical document attempting to describe events literally would have been written.
The idea of interpreting the bible as telling literal events is a comparatively recent event. In ancient times, people probably would have been confused at the idea that some people today take it literally.
My understanding is a good portion was intended originally to unify North and South Judah politically against the threats from neighboring nations. And so much of the historical bits about the Exodus, various kings and all that, are basically fabricated history, according to more recent archeological research.
The Catholics mostly just don’t want to talk to you about it and have catechism class all over again so they blow you off.
Are you an elected representative, or just another weirdo?
Trust me, I don’t want to hear their shitty fantasy stories either.
So are you asking them about it or are you just walking around in your daily life with a rich fantasy story about what’s going on in people’s heads?
I have relatives. Is this difficult to comprehend for you? You have no issues imagining a a big man in the sky, but having carholic relatives and being raised in a catholic country is out of bounds?
Did anyone else see Gen 3 and think, “Hoenn?”
Immediately
Glad to know that Ruby/Sapphire is indeed canon to all later Pokémon games. I’d been worried about that.
Monkeys don’t wear pants. Boom. Checkmate, Darwin
I think you’ll find that monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor - an ape who wore sweatpants. Some of these apes evolved into suit-wearing bankers and some evolved into monkeys who gave up on clothes all together
The lesser known Hominidae Comfortablis.
Clearly our common ancestors had sweater material skin. We just evolved to take it off.
Lol it’s a great morning to read this. Last night in a dream I was applying for a loan “as the nature intended”
There is nothing natural about loans though.
Hahaha it’s the grown up version of going to school naked
Lmao yeah I guess. Being in middle of car leasing and mortgage is stressful
Best wishes
One nation in the Pacific Rim (I forget which) was ashamed of their mostly naked primitive peoples. (Their men wore penis-horns.) So Levi-Strauss provided them with a bunch of modern clothes to wear, which they liked… for a while.
Neither Levi nor the government provided the trobe with modern laundering, and as a result, the whole tribe broke out in an epidemic of skin rashes. it was super unpleasant, and everyone learned the hard way going regimental is better than letting your underwear get too dirty. Without modern water and power it’s good to get used to a brisk wind between your nethers.
All the Levi-Strauss clothes were mostly discarded. Some was turned into furniture or carrying sachels. The tribe still goes around with their penis horns and other bits flapping about.
@uriel238 @magnolia_mayhem
Sounds like New Guinea but I haven’t ever heard the Levi jeans angle.
Omniscient Yaweh has a very poor understanding of cause and effect in Genesis.
It’s not the Tree of Knowledge as many people think, it’s the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
Meaning that yes, he told Adam and Eve not to eat that fruit, but he also didn’t give them the capacity to learn right from wrong, so why would they do what he said?
@FlyingSquid @magnolia_mayhem
Turns out he was lying anyway & the ‘deceptive’ serpent was telling the truth.I love this detail. It’s one of my favorite go-tos for the OT.
Plot so thick, you could stand on it!
I feel like if a lot of animals had the intellectual capacity to make and wear clothes they absolutely would.
Probably because we get cold in some places. We can also make clothes. God forbid the clergy run up on some savages having a fantastic time of it.
ahh, Jewish mythology brainwashing idiots for thousands of years
It’s not Jews fault people made shitty sequels to their original. You can’t blame them for everything.
We should just blame the primary founders: Abraham, Moses, Saul/Paul, Peter, Mohammed, and Ali(I think it’s been a while since I studied Islam)
And god said “evolve!”.
I’d prefer not to give the algorithms any more reason to push such religious groups. Such as “user @[email protected] likes this group and your other interests are similar”
Lemmy doesn’t make money from engagement. There are no engagement algorithms here.
there’s no engagement algorithms here so far
There are definitely engagement algorithms. That’s what active is unless I’m misreading.
And Lenny makes money from people liking a server and donating. Which comes from engagement.