Wow, great title, OP

That’s the whole point of the saying - its a matter of opinion

Goodness, thats amazing - iove it!

The problem with not fucking up is we have two conflicting ideologiea (or, a bit different if we’re gettig technical), so one man’s trash policy is anothers treasure. How can that be anythibg other than a fuck up?

Touché

Sounds like the interpetation of statistics becomes a very subjective game.

Any metric that becomes a target, ceases to be a useful metric and all that

Im all about transparrnt or non-existent private funding!

Ranked voting seems oromising as well.

Quality rant - love it and keep it up

That’s lovely to see. I hope it goes well, sustainably

Ha! In that case, a quality shitpost

Oh for sure, heartily agree. Didnt mean anything akin to 'shut up and take it.

Those ‘in power’ should absolutely lead by example (and there’s bound to be plenty of time before the victims can actually pull back from ‘defence mode’ - now I’m starting to think of it in the same context as abusive relationships, however). Sorry, my analogies are all over the place!

Fair point - I’d moved on from this example of the tiered pricing to the big picture of ‘how does a society eliminate racism’ in principle.

You are right about this.

I do wonder what might the future look like though, when we’re all trying to ‘get one back’ either due to responding to the systemic racism or …bear with me here, the hypothetocal is a little gross: counter-responses: lets imagine pakeha with perceived past hurts in response to similar gestures? (as im sure there are quite a few completely blind to their privilege and so on…). I’m not saying they did the wrong thing at all with the gesture, I’m merely trying to find ways to avoid escalating things (which in hindsight sounds dangerously like ‘peace at any price’, but I don’t think it is…).

Yeah, I get what you mean.

I’m hoping somehow there’s a way where we can get to some sort of parity and then work to de-escalate from there, but I actually just don’t think humans can do that.

We really need better tools to handle our insecurities, as a species…

So, what’s the answer then - woukd it be just declaring there is no racism in NZ and trying to keep everything ‘level’?

Charming… The main rule is ‘don’t be a dick’, no need to come in strong.

You are correct that they had an ‘emotional argument’ (as opposed to a rational one - I’m sure there’s better terms for these), but need you be so obnoxious about it?

I suspect there’s a lot of this going on: https://mander.xyz/post/21175408

It’s a fairly profound contrast, I gather, between the urban/young vs. the rural/aged.

Dunno what we can do about that, really - but it’s looking more and more like the divide in America, unfortunately (and I think Seymour butts is consciously pushing for that, sadly)

I’ve had good luck with windy

Good point, the travel disruption and congregation on parliament grounds was the protest

I have a random brain fart, that in trying to measure just how curmudgeonly it is: going to the hikoi today was great, but I seem to have trouble accepting protests having live performance and other ‘party atmosphere’ elements.

Presumably the party elements attract hangers on and waters down the focus (but I’m a grumpy old bastard that doesn’t enjoy fun, for perspective)