People shunning or putting down training AI with pirated images while engaging in and promoting piracy themselves are hypocritical idiots because they’re engaging in the very thing they are shunning. You can’t shun copyright infringement and take part in it at the same time, that’s idiotic and destroys your credibility.

Piracy was never stealing, anyone who said it was is either an idiot or a troll (those anti-piracy astroturfers would fall into the second category).

Considering who lobbies for and enforces copyright these days (rich assholes) and the amount put into anti-piracy and anti-sharing campaigns I don’t think it’s helping much in those areas. Companies these days often violate GPL with little to no consequence (name one time a company got in trouble and there’s probably 100 that didn’t).

I’ve been putting off cleaning my bathroom for way too long now, it’s scary in there… 😬

You can go fuck yourself dude, trans women are women. For all social and identity purposes they are female.

He absolutely doesn’t want to get rid of them, just make large corporations immune from claims or maybe even able to take copyrights away from others. Abolishment of copyright goes against these people’s core beliefs of control, they don’t want copyright gone, they wish to control it.

No you aren’t, the tactic that @[email protected] And many others are using here is called Tu quoque and it is a logical fallacy.

Yes banning people for votes, fraudulent, excessive, or made seeminly in bad faith is a thing. Mods can view votes these days but also admins have been able to view them for a long time.

I mean you kind of should care since the tagline of the instance is “Be Weird, Download a Car, Generate Art, Screw Copyrights” it’s kind of hypocritical to stay on an instance if you don’t believe in or are aggressively against its principles. Like it wouldn’t make sense for someone to be a member of the piracy instance if they believe that piracy is wrong and intellectual property should be respected, similar thing goes for the AI instance. That might sound like a wrong comparison but the vast majority of anti-AI arguments I hear people barf up are along the lines of “we need to respect copyright” and “stealing intellectual property is wrong” “won’t someone think of the children artists”.

Then why are you on Lemmy’s leading AI friendly instance created by the guy who makes the AIhorde? Seems kind of like a conflict of interest…

I mean I agree with you if we’re talking about openAI, but not so much if we’re talking about lower end models meant to be self-hosted. In that case it’s not really much different from putting people down for gaming or other GPU heavy operations, and at that point we’re just fully leaning into the carbon footprint propaganda.

I hope you aren’t going to argue how other people should be allowed to use their own GPUs, that would be very ironic considering your name, @[email protected]

I mean if people use a self-hosted model on their own GPU that’s really their prerogative how they choose to use their GPU and the energy it uses.

People who don’t want copyright to exist have never created art people want to buy.

I think you’ll find a lot of artists who’ve been screwed over by record labels (who commandeer your copyright), as well as indie artists who release under CreativeCommons or Public Domain who would strongly disagree with you there.

Piracy is not stealing and never will be, seriously you sound exactly like those dumb anti-piracy people. If you somehow believe piracy is okay but training data isn’t that’s hypocritical and stupid.

I don’t know why you think you’re going to get any kind of support for pro-capitalist pro-copyright bullshit here.

Aww it’s so cute that your only attempt at a rebuttable is to assume I can’t draw, because you know that I’m right, you’re sitting here whining and preaching capitalist pro-copyright bullshit in an anarchist community. You’re the one making yourself look bad, making yourself look like a troll, coming into an anti-copyright community whining about people not respecting artists copyright, it’s really sad and pathetic. Grow the fuck up.

Edit: Wow you have one of the worst modlog histories I’ve seen yet. That really doesn’t help your case, and only reinforces the idea that you’re a troll.

Hey look, it’s one of those pro-copyright trolls I was describing in my original comment about how the anti-AI trolls here are hypocrites for coming to an anarchist, leftist community that doesn’t support or prop up the false notion of copyright and intellectual property gatekeeping coming here to argue that a thing is bad because of copyright infringement.

You can’t expect people here to not think you are a troll coming to a community in dbzer0, AKA the piracy instance, and trying to argue pro-copyright talking points, that’s what you’re doing here when you come and whine about art theft. Copyright is a capitalist construct, you sitting here arguing for it, or putting down violations of it is laughable petty trolling at best, and at worst it’s Anarcho-Capitalist, or just straight up pro-capitalist trolling.

Whichever app you’re using you should probably file an issue request for that, that isn’t supposed to happen.

Oh for sure, they’re absolutely not lost, more like a troll.

Are you like… lost? You’re literally in a leftist anarchist community and you’re surprised that people here, in this leftist anarchist community are against capitalism?

That person is 100% a troll, the amount of shit he’s said in this thread proves it. I’m willing to bet he’ll come right back after his ban lifts and start saying the exact same things.