TOS ran 1966-june3rd1969, Russia first landed unmanned in 1959, and the human race through NASA and the Apollo program first landed on the moon on june 20th 1969
Isaac Asimov was a biochemist born in 1920, started writing published sci-fi in 1939 and full on scifi novels in 1950 (seriously, this stuff was wayyyyy ahead of its time). Died in 1992.
Gene Roddenberry was born in 1921, died in 1991.
It’s almost as if doing this first, half a century ago, and, pardon my culturism, but probably less recklessly AND in a higher cost of living country would be substantially more expensive.
But still, a genuine congratulations to India and everybody that worked on that project.
Edit: I don’t know why I’m being downvoted, it’s a fact. “We did it for SO CHEAP” is not a brag or a flex.
The cost to realtime process trajectories in 1968 was not the $10USD that a several year old, e-waste used iPhone is now.
And the yearly salary of NASA engineers now is 100k-150k USD (glassdoor.com) while the Indian space program engineer median yearly salary (payscale.com) looks to be 200k-3M INR (median 800,000), which is $2,400USD-35K USD (median 10,000USD).
So… Just on labor alone, that’s a factor of 5-50x. Then, take into account the improvements in materials and tech that can be basically gotten off the shelf. You don’t have to R&D reinvent tang anymore.
Like, yeah, cool, you did it, that’s awesome. But then, trying to be like “oh we did it for so cheap” just makes me wonder how and then instantly realize that making me think about that undermines the very achievement it’s trying to brag about.
And don’t get it twisted: money is fucked up in the world right now. Just leave it at: You did it, India. Congratulations, one of only four countries in the world have done it.
A room with perfect everything.
I used to be a painter and did some construction. You would not believe how much I want a perfect room. It’s basically just like Morty on perfectly flat ground; most people wouldn’t get it until they were in it.
I’m talking: sub, foundation, frame, crown, base, millwork, frames, drywall, paint. Everything is meticulous and perfect.
The ground is perfect, the foundation is extremely thick, high gyp, super high quality, perfect. The framing is made of perfect ironwood, no flaws, is perfectly plumb, and is extra thick and rigid with those corner things; the room could be spun by a giant like a basketball. Perfect insulation, the absolute most incredible stuff and a ton of it, like R2000 and perfectly sound insulating -130db down to 0hz. The drywall is six layers thick, all of the corners and curves are perfect with the finest, strongest compound; it’s super smooth and the angles are all perfect because the framing is perfect, because the foundation is perfect, because the ground is perfect. The walls themselves are totally smoothwall, no texture whatsoever, it’s like touching a sheet of metallic plasticized glass, but really it’s just the extremely evenly applied dozen layers of the most advanced exterior coatings known to man; in not going to name names, but it’s fine stuff. All of the coatings on the walls, any millwork or cabinetry, and even the floors are all extremely high brightness white, the whitest white; the stuff that actually kind of glows because it’s converting some uv light to visible spectrum and is basically just pure titanium dioxide suspended in a crystalline structure. There are no chips in anything. No dents, no scratches, no fingerprints, no dust, no oil, no stains. Perfect. It’s well lit with natural light, and augmented with locational, directional, intensity, and temperature active diffuse lighting. The air is perfectly controlled and can have a constant flow of fresh, new air, or to have little to no airflow, depending on what I need in the moment - because having anything be possible on a whim takes the right resources. Sunsets, mornings, afternoons, overcast, nighttime, storms - every setting and energy and vibe is increased tenfold because the room is perfect.
And in this room, nobody goes. It’s my room to be made by me, to be in, to have. I will know everything about it because I’ll have made it myself. The real wealth in this life is the ability to do whatever you want without consequence, because time is the real currency and we must all spend wisely - wealth, though, allows you to spend recklessly because, despite what’s seen on the surface, true wealth affords you to not waste time on being poor and having to work for others with small margins to save: the hours most people spend working and toiling are hours I would spend pursuing projects that are fulfilling to me…
Like the perfect room - an eternal dessert for one’s existence.
💯 Yeah, I get to sit in my own comfy chair, with ac, my own music or silence, without people coughing on me, with my doors locked if I feel like it.
That type of busyness in either picture is exceptional. If I get into a car to get somewhere, it’s almost always easier AND FASTER to just stay in it.
Do I think it would be better if they were all electric? Yes.
Is coffee bad for the environment? At every step, yes.
Do I like well made espresso? Yes.
Do I want to go anywhere for a cup of coffee? No.
Do I have the equipment to make good espresso at home? No.
Do I think going without is the best form of being better for the environment? In many cases, yes.
Will I still go somewhere for a chance at a great cup of espresso? Maybe once every other month.
What is the goal of FuckCars and this sort of perspective? Seems like it should be sustainability and quality of life.
Do I think cars are the enemy? No.
Do I wish I didn’t have to deal with them? Yes.
Are there any 100% sustainable, more efficient, better quality of life suggestions that are feasible out there? Not yet.
Do I think FuckCars is a whine? Generally, yes.
Do I think it’s an important debate to keep open? One of the most important.
Why do I criticize it? Because it never addresses the complexity of the problem or produces any feasible solutions or steps to take. It’s a cope with blanket implicit blame. We all want better.
I don’t think you seem to understand…
Hey at least trump has a little diversity! Juuuuuust a liiiiittle 🤏
A few more, and it’ll be more noticable.
High quality vanilla ice cream is easily the best. I’m talking, no eggs, very dense, no carrageenan or other crap like that, and actual vanilla bean. The stuff that tastes like tea and flowers and vanilla. It’s amazing. Also expensive, but it’s a treat I only get every few months.
I highly suggest trying to find an ice cream like this around if you even can.
Well, that’s embarrassing…
When you really don’t believe in your own stuff…
That’s literally always been the goal, and conservatives have pounded their chests and dragged their feet, and now liberals have had to back up to doing subtle payment plans and exclusive relief measures that require a person to be in debt for decades.
I’m sorry, but what a bad take.
Fresh college graduate dev, long-time power internet user here:
Price not important, pricing method and value is important.
A one time $20 is fine. I’m currently poor, but a one time payment for an ACTIVELY developed app that will probably end up being a great app that I use every day for years?
Not a big deal, at all. I think the vast majority of people on Fediverse want web 3.0. like going from [waterfall and hierarchy] to [agile and scrum], people want more control over good-faith interactions. And one time payment to an app that WON’T TRACK US OR COLLECT OR SELL OUR INFORMATION (I’m looking at you, Sync dev!), or even small reoccurring payments are absolutely the way to go.
It’s all about following the energy and purpose of the moment. And right now, on here, most people can’t pay much a year since we’re already getting absolutely squeezed by every direction. But, we do want to support the devs and platforms, and are willing to pay.
There’s a lot of mouths to feed over time, but, I think as long as everybody involved in all those steps followed the philosophies of original copyright purpose, and aren’t using this to get ultra rich, and were just using it to make a comfortable and honest living, everybody here could and would get behind that.
For example, if the dev of Sync needed to buy a house, a car, and save for retirement, and was willing to work 30-40hrs on this app for the next 15-20 years (the app probably doesn’t need that much time), then it wouldn’t be that much trouble to have a formula driven sliding scale for the app subscription for all it’s users.
If it was a variable amount per month in the range of $0.50USD to $1.00USD per 6 months for ALL users unless you’re under 18, and the amount and sub (treating the app as premium only) were always opt-in and like crowd source where users set a max they’re willing to pay and say “I’m in” or “I’m out” (maybe even tiers) and if the need of the dev isn’t met, then pricing model for the next series of months changes from those tiers… I think something like that could work.
That’s basically the dream for users AND devs. Users don’t want to or can’t pay much, but want to support somebody’s needs if they’re actually working, and, like Wikipedia has been saying for years, if everybody pitched in a dollar, everybody would only need to pitch in a dollar. And, devs want to be able to focus on their apps without worry for income, knowing they have the stability and capital backing.
I know it seems kind of like a pipe dream, but I’d love to see (and would love to be a part of) a sort of “low cost, high volume, bundled services” subscription offering for stuff like this. I don’t know if you could make it user-variable, because that threatens the high volume aspect. I also am aware there’s a huge amount of trust that goes into all parties involved for something like this to work…
But, times change and so must business innovation.
Am I just completely out of touch here? Partially? Am I just a dreamer? A modern hippie?
Nobody likes ads, but that’s because most ad-based models have positive feedback loop mechanics where: nobody pays, the ads increase, and when the ads increase, so do ad blockers, and when ad blockers increase, so do the ads, repeating until (surprise) a payment model is found or the platform pulls a Reddit.
And nobody wants that. The only way out is basically public services and price control (almost anybody else has any good ideas).
You have to strike a balance between innovation, no greed, good will, and value. Developing and supporting an app is a job, and we the users have to pay the worker(s) or an investor will come in looking for even more money somehow. Nothing is free. Not for the workers, not for the investors, not for the users, not for the infrastructure.
We have to do this together, all of us, or it’ll crumble to more enshittification. And I’m tired of that.
Whatever it is, something is very wrong.
It’s functionally the same and a petulant showing of their true characters.
When you are a leech of the people, you can’t be punished, right?
What’s your pace for reading books? One per week?
But, that won’t make NEARLY as much money for everybody that wants to sell you shitty solutions.
Lol imagine a new product demanding this.
Lol now imagine an incredibly shitty existing product that is already replaced by superior products and internalized software in even the cheapest tvs demanding this.
The Amazon stream stick doesn’t even offer anything of value as it is.
Is enshittification just extortion at this point?