So now we’re being forced to have poorer performance and locked into buying more expensive hardware.

I’ll have to pass on this type of crap and vote with my wallet when ray tracing still isn’t there for the majority of pc gamers.

  • Kraiden
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    forcing gamers to have a sub par experience

    The game isn’t even out yet and you’re commenting on performance! As someone else pointed out, the modern Doom games have a reputation for being extremely well optimised, so let’s wait and see how it actually performs on a 20 series card

    As for needing a card > $1000 that’s just ridiculous. You can get a 4060 NEW for under 500, and again, the minimum here is a 2060.

    Re: supporting old hardware, again. The minimum is 7 year old hardware. I was also around in the 386 era and to say that devs of that time supported hardware for longer, is at best, wildly exaggerated.

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        It’s cute that you think that was a good counter argument

        • @[email protected]OP
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          You know what, you’re right:

          https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/intel-arc-b580-battlemage-gpu-review-benchmarks-vs-nvidia-rtx-4060-amd-rx-7600-more

          Let’s take a look at the number for the vaulted 4060.

          Dragon’s Dogma 2 - 1080p - 54.3 average with 44.4 at 1% lows

          Dragon’s Dogma 2 - 1440p - 39.5 average with 32.5 at 1% lows

          CyberPunk 2027 - 1080p Medium - 38.9 with 24.4 at 1% lows

          and https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Indiana-Jones-und-der-Grosse-Kreis-Spiel-74506/Specials/Pathtracing-vs-Raytracing-Benchmarks-Test-Release-1461366/

          Let’s take a look at the 4060 with the mandatory ray tracing game Indian Jones.

          Indian Jones and the Great Circle 1080p - 25.2 average with 18 at 1% lows.

          Yeah, the 4060 is going to provide such a great ray tracing experience to the average gamer…

          Edit: Because I can’t be bothered with a proper reply, It’s amazing that pointing out a 2060 running on low is being used as a justification that ray tracing is ready for prime time.

          • Kraiden
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            This is my last reply because I just can’t with you anymore.

            Those are some HELLA cherry picked examples. Both Dragon’s Dogma examples have the games running at MAX SETTINGS!

            Even the Cyberpunk example, that was RAY TRACING on Medium.

            I can’t read german, so no idea what is actually being said in the Indiana Jones article, but the closest equivalent I could find is this video which, frankly, tells me you’re completely full of shit.

          • @[email protected]
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            did you read the testing setups? dragon’s dogma 2 is running at maxed out settings on the raytracing profile. Expecting a 4060 to run at max settings is ridiculous. If you drop it to medium you should easily be able to hit decent framerates.