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    The dems have no coherent message and strategy because they are an attempt to unify basically everything that isn’t the far right under one banner. That means that different politicians under it, and different voters that vote for them, want fundamentally different things. Taking a firm, party-wide stance that satisfies the left wing of the party would risk driving off the segment that is just “conservatives that dont feel comfortable with how openly bigoted the republicans are”, and vice versa. But trying to please everyone by committing to nothing and running on good vibes eventually results in people getting frustrated with voting for a party that doesn’t advance what they want.

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      And yet Republicans have successfully runs on being everything the left is not under one banner successfully for two decades now, taking over the entire federal government.

      That’s because the Republicans aren’t afraid to tell their base they’ll do it all regardless of it contradicts with something else, even if they know it’s controversial, and they push all of it through and let’s everyone know they tried to push it through. They show to their members they have their backs regardless of how stupid it is.

      Meanwhile on the Democrat side, you don’t have a single mainstream leader that’s willing to do that and actively squashes anything that might upset the moderates or their donor resulting in no one feeling like the Democrats will actually fight for them because they won’t.

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      This is something else that the Republicans have always had an edge on.

      I can’t remember exactly how the saying goes. Something about trying to serve two masters and you end up pleasing neither. Republicans have learned that message. Democrats have not.

      Even before the days of Trump, Republicans have always given one clear, consistent message and you either have to take it all or leave it all. You want the immigration policies? You take all the bigotry and tax cuts for the rich that goes with it. You want religious freedom? Then you take our anti-abortion policies too. If it’s that important to you, then your option is to hold your nose and vote for us. Trump has streamlined the process and put a face to the ideology, but the underlying tactic is the same. One man, one message. Take it or leave it. There is no option B.

      Democrats have never learned that. Think of it. Even when Trump isn’t in office, who is the face of the Republican party? Trump. He will be the face of the party long after he’s dead. And his party’s message will be the same as it’s been for decades: This is what the party is all about. Take it or leave it.

      Who’s the face of the Democrat party? What consistent message have the Democrats ever sent? They try to be a broad umbrella for everybody who isn’t Republican. They have no party leader. No face of the party. No message. They try to please the independents and centrists and end up pissing off the far left, only to try to please the far left and alienate the centrists. It’s the epitome of trying to please two masters and pissing off both. It’s the epitome of “jack of all trades, master of none”. It has always been this way. They have never, ever learned that trying to please everybody just ends up pissing everybody off. They need to learn one thing from the GOP: Find a message, stick with it, and stop trying to be all things to all people. If the people are on your side about an issue that’s that important to them, they’ll hold their nose and accept the rest.

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        They try to please the independents and centrists and end up pissing off the far left, only to try to please the far left and alienate the centrists.

        Only because they pretend the far left are about “woke” social policy stuff and absolutely refuse to even consider left economic policy.

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          Ask people what progressives stand for lately and they will say trans rights and wokeness.

          I do wonder if everything on the far left seeming to be about “trans” this and that is an attack by centrists and fascists to portray all of the progressive left’s agenda as being about issues that are critical to only 1% of the population.

          Are trans issues Important? Yes. But are trans rights issues the most critical issues of our time?
          No. Not even close. Trans rights doesnt rise to importance over class struggles affecting all of us or state sanctioned mass murder in Gaza.

          Are they more important than … school vouchers, school lunches, and oil drilling issues? yes.

          Are they more important than gun violence in schools?
          I’d argue no.

          Womens reproductive care rights?
          Fuck No.

          I think the progessives have been trapped by cleverly malign marketing tricks, many of which are from our own dem coalition partners. Centrist bad actions within the DNC to limit progressive influence needs to be reckoned with.