As press secretary Karoline Leavitt says the quiet part out loud about Trump’s tariffs, a reporter who covers Trumpworld explains why his vile bullying of our allies should be taken a lot more seriously.
IDK, man. Indiana born and raised, and I’ve never in my life have I even heard about the notion or desire to have Canada merge with the US. It seemingly came out of nowhere and now a ton of idiots are acting like it’s genius and even an absolutely imperative now.
But other expanding the US’s land and people, and eliminating another sovereign state, what would even be different? Is the expansion the point itself, some weird compulsion to gain control of our neighbors? Or is there some other motivation? It’s probably oil isnt it… it’s always oil.
So this sounds like ignorant American exceptionalism. Stuff that fucking noise.
That is certainly not what I meant, nor is American Exceptionalism a sentiment I hold. I meant that we already enjoyed free trade between our countries before Trump. Already share resources back and forth. Already have closely related cultures and history. Already have military joint operations. Canada has been our closest ally for centuries. Becoming a state, then, doesn’t seem like it would make a ton of differences that the average US citizen would want or even see on the whole. I can see where a narcissist like Trump wants to bully people, take control, be a dictator, etc. But it would make as much direct difference to my life as losing Iowa to the Portuguese would. Obviously if you are in Canada (or Iowa) and suddenly belong to a new county, that will make a make huge difference to you. But if you’re a Tennessean tobacco farmer, why do you think it’s really important that Canada joins the US? They certainly seem to all of the sudden. That is what I meant by “what would even be different?”
The Republicans would immediately become unelectable, for starters, because you’d be adding a lot of population that skews much further left politically than any part of the US. And most of us would be extremely pissed off.
On our side, we’d be getting issues we really do not want with health care (and social services in general) and with gun control.
It would likely all end in guerilla warfare. Or worse. Overall, it’s a bad deal for both sides.
he did say that Canada would be annexed with no representation… so no worries about left shift… also think that whatever party would be in power that surrenders to POTUS47 would immediately become local unelectable pariah, considering polls currently it’d be Libs. So the pressure is rather to push for Cons… what they can’t comprehend is that Canada is not US and it creates some serious pusback
The US could not stop us from committing mass voter fraud. A large percentage of the Canadian population consists of English-speaking white people with accents that are pretty much the same as a large swathe of the United States—the group of people that receive the least scrutiny in most parts of the US. It’s unlikelly they would even be questioned when attempting to vote. (That’s also what makes potential guerilla warfare so messy.)
Well, yeah, they taught us the same concept in history class too. Obviously, American expansionism is not new. But I have never heard a single modern day person talk about America annexing sovereign countries until now. The closest thing was turning some of our territories like Puerto Rico into official states.
Yanks have always been upset we didn’t join them way back. That and they cannot let go of manifest destiny.
IDK, man. Indiana born and raised, and I’ve never in my life have I even heard about the notion or desire to have Canada merge with the US. It seemingly came out of nowhere and now a ton of idiots are acting like it’s genius and even an absolutely imperative now.
But other expanding the US’s land and people, and eliminating another sovereign state, what would even be different? Is the expansion the point itself, some weird compulsion to gain control of our neighbors? Or is there some other motivation? It’s probably oil isnt it… it’s always oil.
So this sounds like ignorant American exceptionalism. Stuff that fucking noise.
YOU may not have heard it (and I can’t link sources), but I have in modern media and from dipshits on the internet.
That is certainly not what I meant, nor is American Exceptionalism a sentiment I hold. I meant that we already enjoyed free trade between our countries before Trump. Already share resources back and forth. Already have closely related cultures and history. Already have military joint operations. Canada has been our closest ally for centuries. Becoming a state, then, doesn’t seem like it would make a ton of differences that the average US citizen would want or even see on the whole. I can see where a narcissist like Trump wants to bully people, take control, be a dictator, etc. But it would make as much direct difference to my life as losing Iowa to the Portuguese would. Obviously if you are in Canada (or Iowa) and suddenly belong to a new county, that will make a make huge difference to you. But if you’re a Tennessean tobacco farmer, why do you think it’s really important that Canada joins the US? They certainly seem to all of the sudden. That is what I meant by “what would even be different?”
He didn’t mean for Canadians but Americans.
The Republicans would immediately become unelectable, for starters, because you’d be adding a lot of population that skews much further left politically than any part of the US. And most of us would be extremely pissed off.
On our side, we’d be getting issues we really do not want with health care (and social services in general) and with gun control.
It would likely all end in guerilla warfare. Or worse. Overall, it’s a bad deal for both sides.
he did say that Canada would be annexed with no representation… so no worries about left shift… also think that whatever party would be in power that surrenders to POTUS47 would immediately become local unelectable pariah, considering polls currently it’d be Libs. So the pressure is rather to push for Cons… what they can’t comprehend is that Canada is not US and it creates some serious pusback
The US could not stop us from committing mass voter fraud. A large percentage of the Canadian population consists of English-speaking white people with accents that are pretty much the same as a large swathe of the United States—the group of people that receive the least scrutiny in most parts of the US. It’s unlikelly they would even be questioned when attempting to vote. (That’s also what makes potential guerilla warfare so messy.)
FWIW, I first heard about manifest destiny in history class at my Canadian elementary school.
Well, yeah, they taught us the same concept in history class too. Obviously, American expansionism is not new. But I have never heard a single modern day person talk about America annexing sovereign countries until now. The closest thing was turning some of our territories like Puerto Rico into official states.