• Cosmic Cleric
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    Why wouldn’t you vote for Harris/Biden?

    I’ve spoken to people who normally vote Democratic who did not vote for Harris because of what they saw as atrocities at the Gaza Strip.

    They just decided to sit out voting all together, instead of voting for Trump.

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        • @[email protected]
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          Trump is giving Putin the green light to flatten Ukraine. Somehow the genocide in Ukraine wasn’t as important.

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        I guess they are happy now that Trump has promised to completely depopulate Gaza.

        Watch what he does, and not what he says.

        He’s talking about taking over Canada and Greenland as well, and that hasn’t happened either. At this point, I think we can all agree he says a lot more than what he actually does.

        Also, from the no-voting person’s perspectives, they didn’t vote for him either, so they are off the hook. From their perspective, they had no good voting options.

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          No. Because Trump’s actions have caused people to die in Ukraine. It’s not a vacuum where there are discrete outcomes. You have to accept responsibility for all your actions.

          They tried to stop one genocide and created two.

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            11 day ago

            No. Because Trump’s actions have caused people to die in Ukraine. It’s not a vacuum where there are discrete outcomes. You have to accept responsibility for all your actions.

            They tried to stop one genocide and created two.

            Some would argue then that the Democrats are to blame for not offering a good candidate that people could vote for, to avoid Trump winning.

            You and I could go down this rabbit hole with a million reasons why a million things happened in a million different ways, and it won’t change things.

            But fundamentally, votes are earned, not given, or coerced.

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              But fundamentally, votes are earned, not given, or coerced.

              That’s just playing with words, and not very well, imho.

              If I’m walking down the street and see a huge hole full of sharks in front of me, I don’t need to be persuaded not to jump into the hole.

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                11 day ago

                If I’m walking down the street and see a huge hole full of sharks in front of me

                The only people who would want to jump in that hole would be people who don’t want to live, really like sharks, or want to protest the lack of pothole repair of their local streets. Though I’d imagine the local/city news channel would probably want to film that for their evening news broadcast.

                Regardless of what you think, you can’t change people’s minds on how they vote, especially by trying to coerce/guilt-trip them, when you can’t see how they vote. Its up to them, not you/me.

                Sharks notwithstanding, of course. lol

                (Also, if I was you, in that scenario I’d call an aquarium to pick up the sharks, and not worry about the ethics of voting your choice vs what someone else tells you to vote for.)

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                    There’s a thing called “politics” and it’s all about changing the way people vote.

                    Says the person who talks about potholes in streets full of sharks.

                    Also, didn’t seem to work this last time. Just saying.

                    You can’t guilt-trip people to voting for your guy, your guy has to earn those votes.

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