Not to me. Its like a trolley problem where if you do nothing someone dies but if you flip it has the exact same outcome. Seems obvious that its better to not have a hand in it.
It’s not the same outcome though. This one is pretty obvious. If you block the bill, government is stopped, can’t do anything. If you allow the bill, government gets more power to keep doing bad things. Doing nothing > doing bad things.
government is not stopped. we have had government shutdowns and things keep going. non essential government as chosen by the executive arm of the government are shutdown. I have been through two or three shutdowns. everything is not shut down. I mean I have listed why its actually worse if its shut down in this particular scenario. there is not more to tell. it really does play into their favor and the only reason they would not want to overtly do it is optics.
Ok who gives a shit. Doesn’t matter if it’s a full shutdown or only a 50% of the government shuts down or whatever. It’s a tool we’re denying the enemy.
I already went through that it plays into his hands. now he can furlough whoever he likes and the court can’t say boo. right now the firings are being challenged and that is a good thing. - Look im adding this here as I meant to put it before. My knee jerk reaction was the same. Resist no matter what but I have outlayed why its worse to allow the shutdown is all. Be mad thats fine. But I just thought it over and realized the shutdown could be and likely would be worse and just allow trump to do what he is doing easier. He effectively is shutting down the government on a permanent basis.
Not to me. Its like a trolley problem where if you do nothing someone dies but if you flip it has the exact same outcome. Seems obvious that its better to not have a hand in it.
It’s not the same outcome though. This one is pretty obvious. If you block the bill, government is stopped, can’t do anything. If you allow the bill, government gets more power to keep doing bad things. Doing nothing > doing bad things.
government is not stopped. we have had government shutdowns and things keep going. non essential government as chosen by the executive arm of the government are shutdown. I have been through two or three shutdowns. everything is not shut down. I mean I have listed why its actually worse if its shut down in this particular scenario. there is not more to tell. it really does play into their favor and the only reason they would not want to overtly do it is optics.
Ok who gives a shit. Doesn’t matter if it’s a full shutdown or only a 50% of the government shuts down or whatever. It’s a tool we’re denying the enemy.
Doing nothing > doing bad things.
I already went through that it plays into his hands. now he can furlough whoever he likes and the court can’t say boo. right now the firings are being challenged and that is a good thing. - Look im adding this here as I meant to put it before. My knee jerk reaction was the same. Resist no matter what but I have outlayed why its worse to allow the shutdown is all. Be mad thats fine. But I just thought it over and realized the shutdown could be and likely would be worse and just allow trump to do what he is doing easier. He effectively is shutting down the government on a permanent basis.