Ehz he didn’t built an automotive platform. Other people did that, he bought it and green it mostly through controversy and by now it’s quite clear that Tesla’s are quite shit to own and drive.
Teslas are awesome to own and drive. It’s an annoying checklist that takes an hour when you first get the car to make sure your car isn’t one of the ones with the bad panels, doors that don’t close nicely, etc., But you can decline the car if it has any of those things, or they fix it right away. Once you are through that part it’s really a great vehicle, especially if you have a charger at home. Gad stations are super inconvenient if you think about it.
…I mean, I love my Tesla, and most people I know with one feel similarly. I’m not a fan of the way the company is run, and association with Elon makes me want to hurl these days, but I have no qualms with the cars themselves.
So I’m not saying FSD is any good, it’s incomplete beta software on public roads, but considering not even a fifth of Teslas have FSD, I’d be willing to bet you’ve just encountered some bad drivers with a nice mix of confirmation bias…
now it’s quite clear that Tesla’s are quite shit to own and drive
By whose metric? Tesla owners have a 97% approval rating. I know tons of people that drive Teslas and they have zero maintenance other than tires and windshield wiper fluid. Hate on Elon all you want, but to assume the cars are shit because he is shit is just juvenile.
I mean I will readily accept that the internet is a fickle place and nothing is ever as black and white as it would seem but there has been a metric fucktonne of examples lately for why Teslas are just straight up bad cars. Cheap materials, poorly wired electronics, broken features, etc.
Like just casually scroll through any car subreddit or other online forum and you’ll see people recording their Teslas just breaking down.
My BIL just bought one, gas is around $6/gallon in Hawaii and there is basically no mass transport. He tried to buy another EV but there was a 6-8 month wait-list. He loves the car, it is what it is. QC has improved over the past few years.
But yet they keep selling a shit ton. And if you talk to an average owner they love their Tesla. It’s almost as if you are looking at a biased sample that is not representative of the vast majority of owners.
ikr who would have thought a person who had zero issues with a car would go on a car forum and complain about it? google literally any car and you’ll see forums of people complaining about them. does this mean All cars are demonstrably shitty? by your metric it does. which is stupid.
lol your point is actually the opposite logic. You’re so close! Only reading about complaints makes you think that car is shitty. I’m actually saying that reading about complaints on forums is a horrible way to assess car quality regardless of car make.
Brother you’re comparing, using numbers from the US, a market of around 2.5 million EVs to 250 million ICE.
Of those 2.5 million EVs over 900000 were sold in 2022.
You have braindamage if you think that’s a gotcha. I haven’t even started filtering down to how many of those are Teslas and the actual percentages therein.
Also, anytime when “97%” of people agree on something it’s the same as “97% of people voted for Putin, they all love him!” and you know it’s pulled out of some ass or another
hilarious you’re so heavily downvoted for this. there are some rabid people on here who can only see negatives. I agree Tesla’s are great to drive and I know plenty of peple who own them and love them and have had zero issues, and also saved a tonne on fuel, and maintance. trying to dismiss all Teslas as garbage is just utter stupidity and honestly sounds like sour grapes to me.
Elon is a awful human and I wish with all my heart he’d have a sudden TIA. but tesla cars are not Elon musk.
ps your downvotes just serve to make my point 💪 stronger.
Maybe they’re being downvoted for the ludicrous claim that a car, even an electric car, has zero maintenance issues other than tires and wiper fluid. It’s not like it has zero moving parts.
Ehz he didn’t built an automotive platform. Other people did that, he bought it and green it mostly through controversy and by now it’s quite clear that Tesla’s are quite shit to own and drive.
Teslas are awesome to own and drive. It’s an annoying checklist that takes an hour when you first get the car to make sure your car isn’t one of the ones with the bad panels, doors that don’t close nicely, etc., But you can decline the car if it has any of those things, or they fix it right away. Once you are through that part it’s really a great vehicle, especially if you have a charger at home. Gad stations are super inconvenient if you think about it.
Until you get into a fender bender. I’ve seen a few too many reports of people having to spend thousands for spare parts that should be hundreds top.
…I mean, I love my Tesla, and most people I know with one feel similarly. I’m not a fan of the way the company is run, and association with Elon makes me want to hurl these days, but I have no qualms with the cars themselves.
I don’t love your Tesla, because they keep almost running me down because their self-driving bullshit doesn’t know what a zebra crossing is.
So I’m not saying FSD is any good, it’s incomplete beta software on public roads, but considering not even a fifth of Teslas have FSD, I’d be willing to bet you’ve just encountered some bad drivers with a nice mix of confirmation bias…
By whose metric? Tesla owners have a 97% approval rating. I know tons of people that drive Teslas and they have zero maintenance other than tires and windshield wiper fluid. Hate on Elon all you want, but to assume the cars are shit because he is shit is just juvenile.
Would love to know where you got the 97% approval rating.
His ass
But why does your finger smell like his statistic?
I’m a plate of chicken and rice mate. I don’t have any fingers
I mean I will readily accept that the internet is a fickle place and nothing is ever as black and white as it would seem but there has been a metric fucktonne of examples lately for why Teslas are just straight up bad cars. Cheap materials, poorly wired electronics, broken features, etc.
Like just casually scroll through any car subreddit or other online forum and you’ll see people recording their Teslas just breaking down.
My BIL just bought one, gas is around $6/gallon in Hawaii and there is basically no mass transport. He tried to buy another EV but there was a 6-8 month wait-list. He loves the car, it is what it is. QC has improved over the past few years.
Zero maintenance is a bold claim. They have repair people that go to your house to replace parts when they break.
I didn’t claim anything about zero maintenance? Lol
The comment above yours did I meant to click on their comment but did yours instead.
But yet they keep selling a shit ton. And if you talk to an average owner they love their Tesla. It’s almost as if you are looking at a biased sample that is not representative of the vast majority of owners.
I mean either way you aren’t getting the representative opinion. Both of them are just anecdotes.
Well the model Y is the most popular car sold world wide so it’s hard to argue that they are “shit”.
ikr who would have thought a person who had zero issues with a car would go on a car forum and complain about it? google literally any car and you’ll see forums of people complaining about them. does this mean All cars are demonstrably shitty? by your metric it does. which is stupid.
lol your point is actually the opposite logic. You’re so close! Only reading about complaints makes you think that car is shitty. I’m actually saying that reading about complaints on forums is a horrible way to assess car quality regardless of car make.
oh you’re so close too! I was actually agreeing with you. try lowering your defensive level 5 points and read it again.
I assume the cars are shit because they spontaneously combust.
gas cars do this an order of magnitude more though.
You got a source? I’m willing to believe the strength of the explosion is greater, but not that gas vehicles spontaneously combust more frequently.
you can believe what you like but you’re still incorrect. that’s the neat thing about facts.
770 fires per million ICE vehicles (2)
6 fires per million EVs (1)
1 https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Fire-Incidents%2C-Trends%2C-and-Risk-Mitigation-of-Cars-Hassan-Hameed/5f6178987f82360a9fe0c8f8aec24bf729dab0c1
2 https://www.nfpa.org/News-and-Research/Data-research-and-tools/Archived-reports-and-data/Vehicle-fire-trends-and-patterns[2
Weird how you used a dead link to try and make your point.
ok bro. stick with your delusions I can’t change them with facts clearly.
If the link isn’t working spend 3 seconds google the paper instead of implying I’m deceiving you with a dead link.
“Stick with your delusions”
Brother you’re comparing, using numbers from the US, a market of around 2.5 million EVs to 250 million ICE.
Of those 2.5 million EVs over 900000 were sold in 2022.
You have braindamage if you think that’s a gotcha. I haven’t even started filtering down to how many of those are Teslas and the actual percentages therein.
Also, anytime when “97%” of people agree on something it’s the same as “97% of people voted for Putin, they all love him!” and you know it’s pulled out of some ass or another
hilarious you’re so heavily downvoted for this. there are some rabid people on here who can only see negatives. I agree Tesla’s are great to drive and I know plenty of peple who own them and love them and have had zero issues, and also saved a tonne on fuel, and maintance. trying to dismiss all Teslas as garbage is just utter stupidity and honestly sounds like sour grapes to me.
Elon is a awful human and I wish with all my heart he’d have a sudden TIA. but tesla cars are not Elon musk.
ps your downvotes just serve to make my point 💪 stronger.
Maybe they’re being downvoted for the ludicrous claim that a car, even an electric car, has zero maintenance issues other than tires and wiper fluid. It’s not like it has zero moving parts.
No, it has about 20.
All of which will likely need maintenance at some point.
How often do you replace the steering column, wheel bearings and electric motor bearings? Basically never.
How about the transaxle assembly? That’s rated for 1 million miles.
These cars need very little maintenance compared to an ICE car that needs bi-annual oil changes.
all these butt hurt people who clearly can’t afford an EV or invested all their money in stupid ice cars is honestly so funny.
‘all we have left is the downvote and darn it we’ll use it’