• TehPers
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    9 months ago

    I still wonder how generalizing over 300 million people by the actions of one tourist makes sense. There are a lot of things that would be easier to point at, like the Christian extremists and the alt-right (although from my experience many of them don’t actually leave the country very often). Still, sweeping generalizations like this cause much more harm than good.

    • @[email protected]
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      99 months ago

      It’s due to what those in other countries see. Americans tend to be pushy and, well, stupid in foreign lands.

      • ono
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        9 months ago

        Americans tend to be pushy and, well, stupid in foreign lands.

        Unpleasant people stand out, so they’re the ones we notice. They make an impression, so they’re the ones we remember. This is true of tourists from all over the world, from America to China.

        I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out that most are respectful, but end up either unnoticed or forgotten.

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          9 months ago

          I’m sorry man, but from what I’ve heard in the tourism industry yanks run third place of worst tourists. Second? Germans. First? The English. It’s always the goddamn English.

          • @[email protected]
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            39 months ago

            Whoever has told you this has obviously never encountered Russians on their holidays. Whoever’s second place doesn’t even come close.

          • @[email protected]
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            19 months ago

            Really? I primarily hear about American, Chinese, and English tourists behaving badly.

            I don’t actually travel, or encounter a lot of German people; what exactly is it that German tourists do that portray them so poorly?

            • taanegl
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              29 months ago

              I live in a port city and we have cruise tourism… maybe that’s the outlier.

              Though I did read in the news once that Chinese tourists would go into people’s homes and even crash a funeral to take pictures…

              That’s pretty fucked up.

      • TehPers
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        89 months ago

        Maybe, but Americans aren’t all “pushy” and “stupid”. Noting a trend is one thing, making a generalized statement is another. The person in the article is Jewish-American. Try replacing “Americans” with “Jews” in your original comment and see how that reads.

        • @[email protected]
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          49 months ago

          The common part in the loud and obnoxious is the American not Jewish though. Also (non-native-)Americans haven’t suffered several attempts of genociding them over the centuries so the generalization is nowhere as dangerous.

          • TehPers
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            109 months ago

            Police identified the suspect as a radical 40-year-old Jewish American tourist and said initial questioning suggested he smashed the statues because he considered them “to be idolatrous and contrary to the Torah.”

            I can tell you the common part of this is not the “American” in them. Similarly, it wouldn’t be fair to call this common to Jewish people either, the vast majority are decent human beings with some level of respect from my experience.

            As for loud and obnoxious, having visited many countries, the “loud and obnoxious foreigners” vary from country to country. I’ve seen it used to describe British, French, Chinese, Australians, and in some countries anybody who isn’t from that country.

          • pips
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            39 months ago

            You really need to read up on American history.