As with any legal punishment, it’s always necessary to acknowledge that no matter how heinous the crime, some portion of people who are sentenced for that crime, will in fact be innocent.
I’d much much much rather not have a single innocent person be subjected to this, just so I can feel smug that some sick fuck “got what they deserved”. Lock em up where they can’t hurt anyone and call it a day. Cruel and usual punishments help absolutely no one in the end
Realistically, ever justice system is going to have to compromise between between the ease of incarcerating actual criminals and the likelihood of a false conviction, I don’t think it’d be possible to build a system where absolutely 0 innocent people get convicted of crimes they didn’t commit - unless it also was unwilling to convict actual offenders
Obviously there are problems with our justice system so this isn’t realistic. That’s why I said “child molesters” and not “people convicted of child molestation”. By definition child molester means “person who has molested a child”
Do you have a way of determining with 100% accuracy which is which? Because if so, holy shit dude, you need to share that shit with the world - you could single handedly revolutionize global justic, what the fuck are you doing just posting about it on Lemmy???
Depending on what physical evidence is present you can be pretty damn sure in some cases. Adult DNA doesn’t just get into little kid orifices by accident.
Framing by the justice system happens all the time. Adult DNA doesn’t get there by accident, but DNA results can get falsified on purpose.
I get that you really want to torture people while feeling morally justified, but consider the fact that torturing convicted criminals doesn’t actually help anyone, including the victim, and that you will inevitably wind up torturing an innocent person. Period.
Like I said, lock 'em up where they can’t hurt anyone - but torturing them doesn’t do anything except make sadists happy, and I don’t think that’s what we should be optimizing for in a first world justice system.
As with any legal punishment, it’s always necessary to acknowledge that no matter how heinous the crime, some portion of people who are sentenced for that crime, will in fact be innocent.
I’d much much much rather not have a single innocent person be subjected to this, just so I can feel smug that some sick fuck “got what they deserved”. Lock em up where they can’t hurt anyone and call it a day. Cruel and usual punishments help absolutely no one in the end
Idk what it is that any mention of violence towards kids makes some people deranged and still think of themselves morally superior.
It gives their sadistic minds a guilt free socially approved justification to be cruel and inhuman to another person.
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Realistically, ever justice system is going to have to compromise between between the ease of incarcerating actual criminals and the likelihood of a false conviction, I don’t think it’d be possible to build a system where absolutely 0 innocent people get convicted of crimes they didn’t commit - unless it also was unwilling to convict actual offenders
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Obviously there are problems with our justice system so this isn’t realistic. That’s why I said “child molesters” and not “people convicted of child molestation”. By definition child molester means “person who has molested a child”
Do you have a way of determining with 100% accuracy which is which? Because if so, holy shit dude, you need to share that shit with the world - you could single handedly revolutionize global justic, what the fuck are you doing just posting about it on Lemmy???
Depending on what physical evidence is present you can be pretty damn sure in some cases. Adult DNA doesn’t just get into little kid orifices by accident.
Framing by the justice system happens all the time. Adult DNA doesn’t get there by accident, but DNA results can get falsified on purpose.
I get that you really want to torture people while feeling morally justified, but consider the fact that torturing convicted criminals doesn’t actually help anyone, including the victim, and that you will inevitably wind up torturing an innocent person. Period.
Like I said, lock 'em up where they can’t hurt anyone - but torturing them doesn’t do anything except make sadists happy, and I don’t think that’s what we should be optimizing for in a first world justice system.