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    The Persian Empire arguably trumped them all, however, when it created scaphism around 500 B.C.E.

    This ancient execution method was also known as “the boats,” as victims were placed in two hollowed-out logs or boats before their suffering even began.

    With their heads and limbs sticking out and their bodies trapped inside, the victim was force-fed milk and honey.

    Their uncontrollable diarrhea filled the boats as executioners poured honey over the victim’s face — and vermin arrived to not only feast upon the prisoners, but enter their bodies to fatally eat them from the inside out.

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          I learned this as spontaneous generation, the obsolete theory that life could appear directly from things that are not alive.

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        I like how everyone is just ignoring this part:

        However, Ctesias’s credibility is questionable due to his reputation for fanciful and exaggerated narratives.

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          It was long thought that the Greek God Glycon was a work of fiction for similar reasons. That was until an artifact of Glycon worship was found and later other prints.

          We know there were hundreds of Greek underworld gods but only 3 names fully survive today.

          Much of what was written has been lost for various instances of destruction.

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        Like most of these “oh my God so brutal” execution methods, scaphism probably never actually happened or is at least exaggerated. Ctesias wrote the only first-hand account of the punishment ever being delivered and his credibility among modern historians is a bit… questionable. Plutarch’s own writings on scaphism were lifted straight from Ctesias, as well.

        Even if scaphism did actually happen like Ctesias wrote, it’s not like it was a normal thing.

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    There’s an episode of “Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell” that covers this thing, and i gotta say fellas, that is some of the most fucked up shit.

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      As with any legal punishment, it’s always necessary to acknowledge that no matter how heinous the crime, some portion of people who are sentenced for that crime, will in fact be innocent.

      I’d much much much rather not have a single innocent person be subjected to this, just so I can feel smug that some sick fuck “got what they deserved”. Lock em up where they can’t hurt anyone and call it a day. Cruel and usual punishments help absolutely no one in the end

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        Idk what it is that any mention of violence towards kids makes some people deranged and still think of themselves morally superior.

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          It gives their sadistic minds a guilt free socially approved justification to be cruel and inhuman to another person.

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          Realistically, ever justice system is going to have to compromise between between the ease of incarcerating actual criminals and the likelihood of a false conviction, I don’t think it’d be possible to build a system where absolutely 0 innocent people get convicted of crimes they didn’t commit - unless it also was unwilling to convict actual offenders

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        Obviously there are problems with our justice system so this isn’t realistic. That’s why I said “child molesters” and not “people convicted of child molestation”. By definition child molester means “person who has molested a child”

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          Do you have a way of determining with 100% accuracy which is which? Because if so, holy shit dude, you need to share that shit with the world - you could single handedly revolutionize global justic, what the fuck are you doing just posting about it on Lemmy???

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            Depending on what physical evidence is present you can be pretty damn sure in some cases. Adult DNA doesn’t just get into little kid orifices by accident.

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              Framing by the justice system happens all the time. Adult DNA doesn’t get there by accident, but DNA results can get falsified on purpose.

              I get that you really want to torture people while feeling morally justified, but consider the fact that torturing convicted criminals doesn’t actually help anyone, including the victim, and that you will inevitably wind up torturing an innocent person. Period.

              Like I said, lock 'em up where they can’t hurt anyone - but torturing them doesn’t do anything except make sadists happy, and I don’t think that’s what we should be optimizing for in a first world justice system.