• @[email protected]
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    301 year ago

    This is a huge point. The other considerations are: EVs are balls expensive compared to ICE counterparts and often require $500-2k worth of electrical work at your house (assuming you even own it) to put in a charger. If you live in an apartment, good luck.

    And oh, btw, the chargers aren’t standard. Each charging site has different plugs, apps you have to download, etc. Then there is the lack of charging stations that highlights the range anxiety people have with EVs.

    Adoption would be so much faster if EVs cost $15-25k and there were adequate standardized charging options available.

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      the chargers aren’t standard. Each charging site has different plugs

      IDK where you’re from, but in europe it’s all standardized and all cars, regardless of brand, use the same plug for both AC and DC charging. The whole app/rfid tag mess is true though.

    • BarqsHasBite
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      91 year ago

      EVs cost more up front and then cost less with fuel, maintenance, and longevity.

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        61 year ago

        This is kind of true. A lot of the maintenance requirements for ICE vehicles is not needed for EVs. So you save money on things like oil changes and if you can charge at home then charging is probably cheaper than gas. But that battery probably needs to be replaced after about 5 years and that is a very expensive maintenance cost.

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          71 year ago

          I have a 2016 leaf. I’ve changed the tires. That’s the maintenance. It’s like $3 to ‘fill’, and that’s about the same as three gallons of ICE distance.

          The battery is around 90% of what I bought it at.

          I have yet to hit any of the problems people are afraid of, but I might just be lucky.

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          61 year ago

          That might be true for older cars that didn’t have good thermal management systems (like the old Nissan leaf) but not true anymore. Electric car batteries now regularly reach over 100k miles with only small degradation. If you baby it, it seems that 200k miles with only 10% range loss is to be expected now

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          51 year ago

          No oil, timing belt, transmission. EVs are incredibly simple vehicles. Many years ago Tesla wanted a million mile battery, they are constantly getting better.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 year ago

          My EV is just over 5 years old and the battery is fine. I know it’s anecdotal but the batteries last longer than projected.

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        31 year ago

        dedicated circuit installed with materials for the wire, breaker fuse, and conduit was $600 including electrician labor

        I live in a high cost of living area so getting my charger installed was quite a bit more. However, it was slightly less than the cost of the new range/oven circuit I also recently had done. So, I guess it’s as affordable as anything is here

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      the chargers aren’t standard. Each charging site has different plugs, apps you have to download, etc

      – US has 2.5 common plugs. An old one that’s mostly gone, the standard one, and Tesla. However Tesla opened theirs as a standard, and it looks like they will be de facto standard across the US

      – The protocols are compatible. The adapter for my Tesla to use the other standards is mostly plastic and dumb. You just need something to fit a different socket

      – yes, the state of apps sucks. Everyone wants to maximize their profit. However I thought most non-Tesla chargers had a credit card reader, so as long as you can find it and it works, you can use it without an app. Tesla is another story, but does seem t add a lot of convenience with their app

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      31 year ago

      Yep these are all true points, but not unexpected as with any innovation. Just like how computers were immensely expensive, and without standards for decades.

      EVs are relatively new in the scope of technology. Capitalism just wants to make you think it’s an issue. In reality this is gonna take time and lack the profits every company is striving for, which to them is a failure.