UPD 2023-12-05, 09:45: Thanks to first responders. I’ve got better answers than expected, both in constructiveness and mood and no less in an acceptance even if not agreeing on somethings. I will not be answering each and every from this point after, but may occasionally answer some.
Things I’ve learned – we are where we are ;) Belief in federated and etc… is strong here. I wasn’t blocked, banned and (sadly – as I like to kick back) nobody atack’ed me personaly :))). Lemmies-nsfw are not on defensive emotional mode or only right people happened to see my post.
Funny note: hadn’t noticed restored full upvotes/downvotes functionality right away as now it it rightly limited to channel-comunity subscibed readers. I wasn’t subscriber of c/asklemmynsfw, only occasional reader :) – so I had my minute of “wait it’s back? wtf, where?” :))) Thanks to devs and mods for that upgrade.
ORIGINAL POST:
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Got a bit tired of limited content here on lemmy nsfw, same several posters, almost empty chanels (communities), almost none somewhat valuable discussions.
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Then add the lost ability to sort anything by upvotes/downvotes and even if downvotes back, no existing functionality to sort by votes within the chanel (community).
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And on top of that, if you take random (non tech.) user, it’s too hard for them to understand how to begin to use lemmy – I recomend someone, they try it 5-15minutes to get onboard and lose it along the way.
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Jumped recently back to reddit, to check the things – I was among thirst wave of exodus, even removed my (nsfw reading) account there. I installed an app and got back there in 5 minutes (even while creating new account), and right away got it all – plenty of everything and full functionality. // P.S. and yes, I know that all technological diference stuff about distributed versus centralized lemmy vs reddit. That’s not a question.
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From point where my question stands there is no difference between centralized reddit mods moderation (you may call it authoritarism, dictatorship or elite driven *cracy – whatever) and lemmynsf (beeing just one specific server) mods ruling here. It’s one against one, both centralized no more and no less ~ same.
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So whats the deal? I’m begining to lose my understanding why stay on lemmynsf?
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Especially after quite clear hints that readers do not matter much here and it is not for convenience of them at all. Not clear if mods are eager to create env where only posters stroke (jerk) each other or they care about the readers and content self moderation (up to limits set by each channel-comunity rules ofcourse) but to the readers likings, or is this like instagram where some supposedly chatty “influesomethings” constantly spam in their own channels and others either follow, either not to their liking.
P.S. marking this as nsfw, as my question is only about lemmynsfw server and it’s comunity, readers, posters and mods opinions about env and arguments to stay/leave here. P.P.S. numbering each question description point – as each of them could be a separate discussion. I think it will be easyer to discuss it with less emotions, more with arguments and opinions on each or several items separately. ,
P.P.P.(is it enough of P’s :)S. Oh and feel free to atack personaly – I’ll try to enjoy it, but don’t cry then after if that’s your only argument or opinion. ;). Hints on correct english are wellcome, it gladly will be fixed - I’m non native speaker. Thanks.
You’re free to use what you want. No one here is going to stop you. I don’t agree with your conclusions, but that’s why I’ll stay off of Reddit and you might not.
And if you’re in it for the porn, I’d argue there are much much better sites for it than Reddit, in both usability and quality. But if you want the specific type of porn that thrives on Reddit, you will need to go there.
As for myself, I kinda enjoy the Tumblr vibe in some of the comms and I definitely enjoy not having revenge porn, amateur guitar playing, spambots, desperate/unwilling fledgling OF marketing, bot war of the week, AND tracked ads littering my porn feed.
Lemmy and lemmynsfw are tiny platforms just starting up, it’s gonna be at least a well funded years to develop them into something resembling a consumer grade platform, and it’s not entirely clear it has to or wants to.
If you want something with convenience and polish, Lemmy probably isn’t it, and you’ll be better off on one of the others. If you want to be part of building and developing something unique, being an active part in shaping our collective future, there is a corner on Lemmy to contribute to.
// Thanks for your input and I’m aligned with your opinion on the UI/UX of reddits official app and website UI ugliness and shitification level.
As for the better/worse nsfw sites – reddit or lemmynsfw (only in aspect of nsfw and ignoring other content communities, as was the point of my original question) are interesting for me only as user generated original (preferably non pro or semi pro) content and as user sorted nsfw content tops and ofcourse discussions on/or spicy texts/questions posts. E.g. like in “here is my boob, guys ;)” vote me up/down. And in like – I’m checking the top ass in allfours this month or top short couple fck video – and I mean real top, voted up/down by community users. And in like “Someone saw a boob, should a second one be shown ;)?” discussions with all the dirty jokes, hints or serious answers, or “Here is my summer adventure nsfw version story” floated to the top.
And you know what is common between all these? It’s a community sorted content. Because for unsorted, promoted content – I agree with you – we have a better specialised sites in the wild, with whom neither lemmynsfw, neither even reddit will ever succeed to compete. Imho their strength should be comunity driven. I’m kinda starting to miss this on lemmynsfw (and even on some other, especially hard lefties dominated, lemmy servers too). But what are or would be lemmy servers or reddit without that? Insta clones? That is what I’m interested to discuss in and find out. What is the vision? I mean except technological one, a distributed, non central authority and shit, servers – here we are clear, it should be good from ideological and control point of view. But what else?