UPD 2023-12-05, 09:45: Thanks to first responders. I’ve got better answers than expected, both in constructiveness and mood and no less in an acceptance even if not agreeing on somethings. I will not be answering each and every from this point after, but may occasionally answer some.

Things I’ve learned – we are where we are ;) Belief in federated and etc… is strong here. I wasn’t blocked, banned and (sadly – as I like to kick back) nobody atack’ed me personaly :))). Lemmies-nsfw are not on defensive emotional mode or only right people happened to see my post.

Funny note: hadn’t noticed restored full upvotes/downvotes functionality right away as now it it rightly limited to channel-comunity subscibed readers. I wasn’t subscriber of c/asklemmynsfw, only occasional reader :) – so I had my minute of “wait it’s back? wtf, where?” :))) Thanks to devs and mods for that upgrade.

ORIGINAL POST:

  1. Got a bit tired of limited content here on lemmy nsfw, same several posters, almost empty chanels (communities), almost none somewhat valuable discussions.

  2. Then add the lost ability to sort anything by upvotes/downvotes and even if downvotes back, no existing functionality to sort by votes within the chanel (community).

  3. And on top of that, if you take random (non tech.) user, it’s too hard for them to understand how to begin to use lemmy – I recomend someone, they try it 5-15minutes to get onboard and lose it along the way.

  4. Jumped recently back to reddit, to check the things – I was among thirst wave of exodus, even removed my (nsfw reading) account there. I installed an app and got back there in 5 minutes (even while creating new account), and right away got it all – plenty of everything and full functionality. // P.S. and yes, I know that all technological diference stuff about distributed versus centralized lemmy vs reddit. That’s not a question.

  5. From point where my question stands there is no difference between centralized reddit mods moderation (you may call it authoritarism, dictatorship or elite driven *cracy – whatever) and lemmynsf (beeing just one specific server) mods ruling here. It’s one against one, both centralized no more and no less ~ same.

  6. So whats the deal? I’m begining to lose my understanding why stay on lemmynsf?

  7. Especially after quite clear hints that readers do not matter much here and it is not for convenience of them at all. Not clear if mods are eager to create env where only posters stroke (jerk) each other or they care about the readers and content self moderation (up to limits set by each channel-comunity rules ofcourse) but to the readers likings, or is this like instagram where some supposedly chatty “influesomethings” constantly spam in their own channels and others either follow, either not to their liking.

P.S. marking this as nsfw, as my question is only about lemmynsfw server and it’s comunity, readers, posters and mods opinions about env and arguments to stay/leave here. P.P.S. numbering each question description point – as each of them could be a separate discussion. I think it will be easyer to discuss it with less emotions, more with arguments and opinions on each or several items separately. ,

P.P.P.(is it enough of P’s :)S. Oh and feel free to atack personaly – I’ll try to enjoy it, but don’t cry then after if that’s your only argument or opinion. ;). Hints on correct english are wellcome, it gladly will be fixed - I’m non native speaker. Thanks.

  • KeralewdEnglish
    2•1 year ago

    I don’t think you need to know who I am or who is posting (and if you did, you should go elsewhere, as you noted). It’s enough that you and I are thinking about how votes fit in the community aspect of things (aka sorting things out “naturally” without a special care).

    I mistook your stance on downvotes as being all or nothing - if we’re both on votes only being for community members (and I’m still open to putting it back to everyone if/when this instance is bigger), then we’re on the same page.

    without a real vote by everyone

    I do agree that it may have been hasty to enact the initial downvote restriction without any broader vote. I managed to get my input in, but I that was only on the ModCoord comm I linked you. There was some additional discussion on Matrix, but I only saw that after the fact. I only visit once or twice a day to post and take breaks when my life is busy, so I was also surprised to see the announcement when I came back. The second vote also didn’t include a “no restrictions” vote either, so I suppose that wasn’t an option they wanted to explore.