• SatansMaggotyCumFart
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    410 months ago

    It has been 12 years of presidents, 12 long years of waiting, tightening our belts, “fighting for democracy”. Why does it seem like the voters are the only ones interested in preserving it?

    So you were happy with first term Obama but not second term Obama?

    Am I reading this right?

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      10 months ago

      Lol you’re right. I was on a roll and added a whole term, oops! Let’s pretend i meant to include bidens second term, which makes me right and not wrong

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          010 months ago

          Indeed, I even voted for Obama second term. Was i as happy with him as the first time? Nah, but i was still a registered dem back then

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              I got into politics more deeply than ever, going door to door for bernie back in '16. The verdict by the judge in 17 saying the DNC is a private entity caused me to no longer believe in the Dem’s primary process. The way HRC’s campaign wanted to control both her and trump coverage in the media, the podesta emails, and that whole related scandal really put a beat down on my whole belief system.

              So i kept reading and thinking and adjusting my political worldview and here i am, arguing it on a small forum on the web (or cynically working tirelessly to helpTrump win, depending on your pov)

              • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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                110 months ago

                Bernie didn’t have a chance to win, that’s why Trump desperately wanted to run against him.

                He would have been great, but had no chance pulling in enough votes.

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                  210 months ago

                  Bernie didn’t have a chance to win

                  The veracity of this comment aside, of course he didn’t have a chance, the DNC hand-selected Hillary.

                  Why did you bring it up instead of what i brought up, the verdict in '17 saying the primaries were rigged?

                  • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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                    110 months ago

                    Hillary won the primaries in 2016.

                    Biden win them in 2020 even though Trump desperately wanted to run against Bernie.

                    I think you’re seeing conspiracies where there aren’t any.

          • HACKthePRISONS
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            110 months ago

            when he carried on bush’s war crimes, i was done with him. i thought executive orders would be undone, not expanded.

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            -110 months ago

            i couldn’t even make it to obama’s second term.

            close gitmo
            universal healthcare
            student debt forgiveness

            all lies.

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              -210 months ago

              Oh yeah, but you can’t overestimate how much prop we get shoved down our throats. Kinda like McDs you don’t realize how shit it is for your system until you stop eating it daily

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                -110 months ago

                i don’t judge you for it, not really. i have friends who voted for hillary, and friends who voted for biden, and, hell, i voted for shapiro for AG ***AND*** governor even though i thought his AG term made him out to be a liar and a cop.

                i’m not voting for him for president, though. fuck that.