EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:

This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.

If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.

  • Iron Lynx
    1•9 months ago

    Essentially, yes.

    Besides, speed cameras, especially in NA, enforce by punishment. Punishment that some people are unable to afford, because for some reason they coddle billionaires while letting a fifth of their citizens rot in the gutter.

    Meanwhile, a traffic calmed school zone enforces proactively. Are you sure you’d like to risk scratching your brand new $50k truck’s pristine paintjob? A properly traffic calmed street will force drivers to face that question, and in many cases, they’ll answer the question with “no”, and slow down. Mission accomplished.

      • Iron Lynx
        0•9 months ago

        Counterpoint:

        How often do you think most people watch their speed gauges?
        You and I might do so regularly, but you sure as hell cannot say that for sure about every other person on the road.

        Furthermore, how obvious is the speed limit?
        I can tell you with certainty that, outside of a few, mostly European, places, this may be unclear. North American traffic engineers happily design roads with speed limits anywhere between 40 and 80 km/h, with no changes to the cross-sectional geometry of the (st-) road.

        Systemic speeding because of misguided road design is more common than you’d like to admit. And a few cameras probably only do so much to fix that.

          • Iron Lynx
            0•9 months ago

            And putting up signs and cameras literally only does so much to convince people to slow down on wide, straight roads. How likely is the average driver in your area to speed? I can assure you, half of the road users are worse than that.

            If we’re going to start pointing to other discussions, make it as easy to find your point as you can. Case in point, what I’m talking about.

              • Iron Lynx
                0•9 months ago

                And “realistic solutioins that work now and can be quickly applied everywhere” are far too easily quick fixes. And nothing is as permanent as a quick fix.

                Besides, at least one of your sources is a Canadian car journalist, someone who’s probably personally invested in sucking GM’s metaphorical dick.
                And let’s also face it, Canada, a country where a city of half a million people was “too small for a rapid transit network,” while cities a third its size have about as much, if not more, absolute track mileage and ridership on their tram network than Toronto.

                Who’s the biased one here, mister pot, accusing the kettle he’s black?

                  • Iron Lynx
                    1•9 months ago

                    Two words: Jersey barriers.

                    You can at least create the chicanes by putting up concrete barriers. Just as simple as a moveable speed trap, achieves much of the traffic calming effect, no extra police resources needed.

                    EDIT: In fact, now I think about it, using planters will have most of the same effect, while looking prettier.