Good/bad is the wrong aproach. What ppl this days lack is the sense of chivalry. If you see someone that was right in an argument beating the shit out of the guy that was wrong, you as a human being still should intervene to stop the onslaught.
It’s 10k civilian deaths vs 500 civilian deaths. May be time to stop the massacre?
Of course many things are relative, still if we do not try to discuss specific terms there will never be human understanding.
Is Israel imaginary? Me as living in Finland, I could still not verify.
Is there a massive weapon industry in U.S: and Nato countries? Well, that you can believe it. Every bullet sold is documented by multiple entities.
Is there a specific count of bullets, assault rifles, grenades, rocket launchers, war drones, missiles, ground mines, military vehicles and bombs sold to Israel by U.S. and Nato? Yes.
Is military funding accounted? Yes.
If something is official, you can trust it is real.
On the other hand Iran smugles armament to Hamas. That amount cannot compete with the official Nato supply. It’s just industrially and logistically impossible.
A gun vs knife situations consequence is that a ‘war,’ as you call it became a genocide.
If we do not try to specify terms, ww2 jews could also be just ‘war casualties’.
I see where you are trying to get with that argumentation based on causality: justification. Thus, back to good/bad.
Still, I disagree on your reasoning for the condemn of ww2 atrocities. From the very beginning german nationalists had a big point against jew ownership and business monopoly. It’s not for nothing that a majority democratically elected the to-be dictator Hitler. It’s the way Nazi party implemented the ‘fix’ and the indifference of the rest of the germans that made up the genocide.
Similarly you repeatedly dismiss a key historical event in the palestinian conflict beginning. The brittish gave palestinian land to jews. Land which housed the majority of the palestinians at the day. How can you expect that to work in any case? Even if Hamas didn’t exist palestinians would have the right to reclaim own land and conflict would be unevitable.
Let’s forget the good/bad reasoning and face the issue from it’s root, which is a mere territorial dispute.
Good/bad is the wrong aproach. What ppl this days lack is the sense of chivalry. If you see someone that was right in an argument beating the shit out of the guy that was wrong, you as a human being still should intervene to stop the onslaught.
It’s 10k civilian deaths vs 500 civilian deaths. May be time to stop the massacre?
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Of course many things are relative, still if we do not try to discuss specific terms there will never be human understanding.
Is Israel imaginary? Me as living in Finland, I could still not verify.
Is there a massive weapon industry in U.S: and Nato countries? Well, that you can believe it. Every bullet sold is documented by multiple entities.
Is there a specific count of bullets, assault rifles, grenades, rocket launchers, war drones, missiles, ground mines, military vehicles and bombs sold to Israel by U.S. and Nato? Yes.
Is military funding accounted? Yes.
If something is official, you can trust it is real.
On the other hand Iran smugles armament to Hamas. That amount cannot compete with the official Nato supply. It’s just industrially and logistically impossible.
A gun vs knife situations consequence is that a ‘war,’ as you call it became a genocide.
If we do not try to specify terms, ww2 jews could also be just ‘war casualties’.
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I see where you are trying to get with that argumentation based on causality: justification. Thus, back to good/bad.
Still, I disagree on your reasoning for the condemn of ww2 atrocities. From the very beginning german nationalists had a big point against jew ownership and business monopoly. It’s not for nothing that a majority democratically elected the to-be dictator Hitler. It’s the way Nazi party implemented the ‘fix’ and the indifference of the rest of the germans that made up the genocide.
Similarly you repeatedly dismiss a key historical event in the palestinian conflict beginning. The brittish gave palestinian land to jews. Land which housed the majority of the palestinians at the day. How can you expect that to work in any case? Even if Hamas didn’t exist palestinians would have the right to reclaim own land and conflict would be unevitable.
Let’s forget the good/bad reasoning and face the issue from it’s root, which is a mere territorial dispute.
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I was really enjoying this debate, which enriched me too until you lost ur cool. Sad.
Peace.
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