Google photos and apple have been doing it for years too, they’re like we found this person 50 times in your photo collection, why don’t you name them?
I don’t. Corps gonna corp, if they can. But I’ve checked this using all the development, networking, and energy monitoring tools at my disposal and apple’s e2e and on-device guarantee does appear to hold. For now.
Still, those who can should audit periodically, even if they’re only doing it for the settlement.
No like actually though. I do not have the energy to do that (for many reasons that both are and are not my own fault). Thank you for spending your energy on something that is also helpful to me that I don’t have the energy for.
They’ve been doing ML locally on devices for like a decade. Since way before all the AI hype. They’ve had dedicated ML inference cores in their chips for a long time too which helps the battery life situation.
Amazon asked me to use their photos app to get a $20 gift certificate last week. I uploaded one photo, got the bonus money, deleted the app and used it to help buy a new monitor.
Quick guess from me would be permission to use the camera(s) and if they have some kind of file picker or gallery, permission to access all media files from your phone (and older versions of Android did not have this "media"distinction, so they would give access to all user files (excluding sandboxed paths)
You have to manually approve of giving each permission on Android, and camera and files/images are separate permissions (so giving access to the camera doesn’t require giving access to your files). And you can make it so they only have access to it while you use the app. If you take a random picture and then uninstall, they get nothing except that random picture.
It even has the same kind of AI object and face recognition as in Google Photos, but it’s your own cloud setup and self-hosted software, so all of the data is entirely yours and nobody else’s.
It’s downright strange to think of those things as actual features and not privacy violations.
Yeah it really bothers me that they’re not asking you to compromise only your data, they want you to give them info on your friends/family too (who obviously didn’t agree to the terms and conditions).
Google photos and apple have been doing it for years too, they’re like we found this person 50 times in your photo collection, why don’t you name them?
Apple, afaik, used to be doing this on-device rather than in the cloud. Not quite sure about the situation today.
thats if u trust them
I don’t. Corps gonna corp, if they can. But I’ve checked this using all the development, networking, and energy monitoring tools at my disposal and apple’s e2e and on-device guarantee does appear to hold. For now.
Still, those who can should audit periodically, even if they’re only doing it for the settlement.
Hero
Thanks
Security is in my interest, but yw
No like actually though. I do not have the energy to do that (for many reasons that both are and are not my own fault). Thank you for spending your energy on something that is also helpful to me that I don’t have the energy for.
Heard. Today you tomorrow me.
Still on device for Samsung, not sure about others https://www.samsung.com/us/account/privacy-policy/#:~:text=Information Stored on Your Device Not Accessible to Samsung
They were inferencing a cnn on a mobile device? I have no clue but that would be costly battery wise at least.
They’ve been doing ML locally on devices for like a decade. Since way before all the AI hype. They’ve had dedicated ML inference cores in their chips for a long time too which helps the battery life situation.
It couldn’t quite be a decade, a decade ago we only just had the vgg — but sure, broad strokes, they’ve been doing local stuff, cool.
Amazon asked me to use their photos app to get a $20 gift certificate last week. I uploaded one photo, got the bonus money, deleted the app and used it to help buy a new monitor.
Sometimes these things can be turned into a win.
So what you are saying is that you gave Amazon access to your device for 20$? Doesn’t sound like a good deal to me.
and what would “access to your device” be (assuming this is android)?
Quick guess from me would be permission to use the camera(s) and if they have some kind of file picker or gallery, permission to access all media files from your phone (and older versions of Android did not have this "media"distinction, so they would give access to all user files (excluding sandboxed paths)
You have to manually approve of giving each permission on Android, and camera and files/images are separate permissions (so giving access to the camera doesn’t require giving access to your files). And you can make it so they only have access to it while you use the app. If you take a random picture and then uninstall, they get nothing except that random picture.
Indeed, and would you like to take a guess what % of Android user just accepts it as it is?
Presumably not anyone on Lemmy
apps are sandboxed. if all they did was upload one pic, what access did amazon really get? I’d do that for $20.
This is why it’s worth the time to set up Immich.
It even has the same kind of AI object and face recognition as in Google Photos, but it’s your own cloud setup and self-hosted software, so all of the data is entirely yours and nobody else’s. It’s downright strange to think of those things as actual features and not privacy violations.
Yeah it really bothers me that they’re not asking you to compromise only your data, they want you to give them info on your friends/family too (who obviously didn’t agree to the terms and conditions).